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Post by Annie on Dec 23, 2005 17:46:29 GMT -5
I heard a SPOILER about Mr. Eko from Ryan and Jen today. Some military person who was an extra played the part of a church lady at his congregation in Nigeria. Evidently Eko is/was a War Lord. Now isn't that special?
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Post by Sunan on Dec 23, 2005 17:54:45 GMT -5
Yeah, I heard that spoiler as well. I'm not too sure if that's authentic though. We'll just have to wait and see, I suppose.
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Post by Sunan on Dec 23, 2005 18:13:30 GMT -5
And um, I saw this picture from the promotional pictures for the next episode, weeks ago, but I noticed that it hasn't been posted around here yet, so here we go: It's simply a cropped picture of Mr. Eko's stick. Thoughts?
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Post by heyes on Dec 23, 2005 21:12:22 GMT -5
Well, I can make out "Titus", "Revalation 3", "Hateth" and, of course, "23rd Psalm". I'm not religious, so these names and references mean nothing to me. I'm assuming they're all tied to the Bible.
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Post by Jeremy on Dec 23, 2005 22:42:00 GMT -5
I would guess that this is probably the Verses that Rev. 3 is referring to... 7"To the angel of the church in Philadelphia write: These are the words of him who is holy and true, who holds the key of David. What he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one can open. 8I know your deeds. See, I have placed before you an open door that no one can shut. I know that you have little strength, yet you have kept my word and have not denied my name. 9I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars—I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you. 10Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come upon the whole world to test those who live on the earth. 11I am coming soon. Hold on to what you have, so that no one will take your crown. 12Him who overcomes I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will he leave it. I will write on him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on him my new name. 13He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. It also looks like it says Titus 3, which is all about doing what is good. Just in case you want to read it... I am still working on some of the other stuff. Also, the redemption may tie in if he was a warlord... Hmmm....
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Post by heyes on Dec 23, 2005 22:51:06 GMT -5
I've checked around and aparently Mr. Eko enters a church claiming to be a priest, while he's still a well known violent warlord. Very cool stuff Jeremy.
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Post by Annie on Dec 24, 2005 10:33:35 GMT -5
It's great to have a Judeo-Christian expert on the team! Go Jeremy!
I had to get my Bible out and take a peek. Do you think the half legible one is Colossians?
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Post by ethan on Dec 24, 2005 11:57:38 GMT -5
IMPOSTER!
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Post by xeo on Dec 25, 2005 18:09:12 GMT -5
great find..yeah i heard the spoiler too..no wonder he's carrying a freaking killing stick..
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Post by Jeremy on Dec 26, 2005 19:02:29 GMT -5
It's great to have a Judeo-Christian expert on the team! Go Jeremy! I had to get my Bible out and take a peek. Do you think the half legible one is Colossians? That was my Thought, but if so, it is spelled wrong... Colossans Should be Colossians I understand that it is difficult to write in Wood, so maybe this accounts for the spelling error... ...I decided to play around with the colors on the Photo, changing the contrast to see if anything else stood out, and I came across something fascinating...you can see it in the unchanged photo as well It looks like it says T:4, which my first thought turned to 1 Timothy 4. This Chapter is Pauls instructions to Timothy about not losing his faith as the end times come near. Interesting stuff... (heres the link in case y'all want to scope it out for clues... www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=61&chapter=4&version=31Sounds good right? Well T-4 ALSO was (for those of you who don't know, sorry, history major ;D) the program that Hitler installed to Euthanize those who were not part of the "Master Race." Here are some links for you to Peruse... www.mtsu.edu/~baustin/euthan.htmlen.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-4_Euthanasia_ProgramNow on the Wiki page, one of the other links that it goes to is Eugenics, which "is a social philosophy which advocates the improvement of human hereditary traits through social intervention." This is one of the Active Projects on the Hanso Foundation Website... www.thehansofoundation.org/activeproject.htmlAlso it says on the Hanso Foundation Website that Alvar Hanso, "made his mark during the Second World War, providing munitions to various resistance movements around Europe." However, it doesn't say what "Side" he was helping out... Is there a Tie-in to the Drugs and the "sickness" that we keep discussing? I think there may be. What does this have to do With Eko you may ask? one of the Groups that Hitler considered an Inferior race was Africans. Possibly this program was continued in Nigeria by another group that took its cue from the Third Reich. Wow, that is long!!! Thoughts?
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Post by Annie on Dec 27, 2005 10:32:05 GMT -5
I saw the T : 4 also, but had no clue. 1 Timothy 4 seems to fit, but the Nazi connection is very very interesting. So T 4 wasn't the Jewish extermination? It was the mentally retarded, etc.?
You know some tribes in Africa still practice genocide of other tribes of everyone over say 12 years old. If Eko was a War Lord, he might have participated in or been a victim of this practice. Very interesting.
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Post by rasalghul on Dec 27, 2005 14:31:28 GMT -5
I'm using the latest spoiler on spoilerfix to propose this theory about Ecko. It is said that he's the king of warlord in Nigeria and he wanted to be ordained priest.
My idea is that OK he's a warlord but he's a good and faithful warlord who discovered that a member of his tribe is dishonoring him and his tribe by pretending to be a missionnary and started smuggling drugs using his cover.
So it is possible that he has been able to track one of those smuggling plane all the way to Australia that's why he went there. That would explain all the rage he showed when he smashed the Virgin Mary Statue in the preview as he knows how the drug is smuggled and recognized the statue.
So he clearly has a redemption issue as he hasn't been able to prevent this blasphemy and he want to repair his honor aand the honor of his tribe.
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Post by Jeremy on Dec 27, 2005 14:53:53 GMT -5
So T 4 wasn't the Jewish extermination? It was the mentally retarded, etc.? Yeah, it was the precursor to the Holocaust...
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Post by Annie on Dec 28, 2005 10:22:13 GMT -5
Good one, rasalguhl. Some of us have thought he was connected to that Nigerian drug plane, but your angle on the situation is a new one. Eko's recognizing the statue would make sense. He's smashing it because he knows what's in it, not because he wants to expose Charlie's shortcomings to Claire. I like that.
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Post by Jeremy on Dec 28, 2005 17:28:27 GMT -5
Yes, that is a good point as well...ONLY 2 WEEKS LEFT 'til we find out!!!
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