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Post by faradaystie on May 26, 2010 12:53:41 GMT -5
I gotta say I don't think the FS was Purgatory. It was the last cycle of there "lives". Let me explain. Everyone in the entire world dies and gets reincarnated into themselves in their next lives over and over again. "See you in another life, brother" hints towards this. Every time you relive your life you make slightly better choices ie "It only ends once, everything else is progress". The losties experiences on the island matured them spiritually so in there next life (the flash sideways) they made the best choices they could with what they had, reached their potential, found enlightenment (flashes of previous lives) and moved on to heaven or whatever is beyond this life...  |
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Post by spinaltumor on May 26, 2010 13:50:18 GMT -5
On Kate, how often does one meet with their parole officer? It's hard to imagine, but Kate was probably only gone for a couple weeks. And she may have used an alter ego to fly on Ajira with. So people may not even know she was really gone all that long....
But I have no clue how that all works in the justice system.
I don't think things would be too weird for Richard. We know he's left the Island plenty of times before (recruiting Juliet and such), so I don't think culture shock would be an issue. Maybe buying a house and stuff would be, though, haha. He has to work for a living now!
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Post by kuhbr on May 26, 2010 14:12:39 GMT -5
I'm more interested in how the hell they would explain Sawyer and Claire. I mean the Oceanic 6 came up with that whole story of how everyone died, then they all go missing on another flight, and it reappears weeks later with people from the first crash on it. I mean how the hell do you explain that. I guess there's no reason to lie anymore, they could just tell them about the island and everything, but who would believe them lol.
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Post by donle on May 26, 2010 17:37:05 GMT -5
Anyone else notice that Kate's clothing changed between when she left Jack to enter the church (hot mini skirt) to a blouse and pants when we next see her inside the church? Simple continuity error, intentional with some story point, or intentional because the mini would look too hot (and inappropriate) inside the church?
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Post by LockeRulez on May 26, 2010 19:36:37 GMT -5
I don't think anyone mentioned this yet, although i thought it was pretty obvious. The Church was the same place that The Lampost was, right?
Anyone think there is any connection here to the original Lampost's function (to find the island) or vice versa? Was there a deeper religious meaning to The Lampost and finding The Island? Or was it just a well known church that most of them knew from their time in LA. Obviously The Sideways is concocted based on their joint consciousness memories, so its possible that it (like everything else in the Sideways) really means nothing more than coincidence. While we don't know 100% who was leading this get-together, it would seem it was Desmond's idea to go here as he dropped off The Coffin.
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Post by spinaltumor on May 26, 2010 22:01:42 GMT -5
Yeah, I felt that the church being also the Lamp Post added some symbolism. Just as the Lamp Post connected them from the outside world to the Island, the Lamp Post in the sideways will connect them from limbo to the afterlife.
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Post by AussieJordan on May 26, 2010 22:26:47 GMT -5
I am very satisfied, this was a perfectly rounded ending to the show, and I think I remember theories about it ending with the eye closing, loved it.
But I felt like I was punched in the stomach, like my heart skipped a beat when LOST came on the screen and the show was really over. Never missed an episode guys.
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Post by broncojeff on May 27, 2010 0:56:45 GMT -5
If you still have season 6 episode 1 on your DVR you HAVE to watch the part where Sawyer goes into the wreckage to get Juilet. As she's dying she says "we should get coffee sometime", "we can go dutch", and "kiss me". According to Christian the limbo world can last just a nanosecond... in that scene it seems like Juilet lived her entire limbo life in just seconds while Sawyer was holding her as she was dying. Then Miles read her grave and told Sawyer "it worked" which we now know goes back/forward/sideways (whatever) to the vending machine... "it worked". I think we all better get going on rewatching season 6 to see what other answers are buried deep in the limbo flashes. I agree... I think there are a lot of gems hidden in the FS stories we saw this season that hint at what was going to happen. How about Jack asking about when his appendix was removed? He couldn't remember it & even his mother was surprised that he couldn't remember. |
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Post by broncojeff on May 27, 2010 1:02:01 GMT -5
Anyone else curious about Desmond & his visions?
When he pulled Jack aside it sure seemed like he had been seeing the FS events. I thought he had seen the future (island events) since his event in the box & that is why he was so calm and willing to going along with Widmore & MIB.
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Post by lostrage on May 27, 2010 2:44:13 GMT -5
They intended to write a show about redemption through works and make the Island be a stand-in for Purgatory. But early on during season 1, too many people figured it out, and their desire to keep their concept a secret caused them to alter their story. The Island as a stand-in for the concept of Purgatory would explain all the weirdness, but once they didn't want people to know that the show was about that, they probably had to just accept that they wouldn't ever explain the Island. Or the weirdness. But then to bring the show to a close, they returned to their original concept of Purgatory and made the Flash Sideways be the standin for that concept. The writers intended the show to be purgatory. Which explains why they were so inter-connected off-island. The general public figured it out, and so they dumped that idea, and then created a few dead-end story lines while they scrambled to figure it out, then they went off on a tangent for a WHOLE season about the hatch and the numbers which was another dead end.
the writers themselves claimed that the 3rd season was written with characters in a cage because thats how they felt. So they had a come to jesus conversation with ABC and said look we are stringing the public along we have no clue where to go, and so they devised the flashward.
Then years before they ended the show they announced that the show would end in the 6th season. Giving them plenty of time to go back and answer questions. Instead they kept moving forward creating new deadend story lines. Posing questions that they had no intention of answering. Even in the last few episodes they were using this device. Example the music box that Christen Shepard gave to Claire, they hung on the moment as IF it made was a big deal. Turns out to be nothing. Yet again the writers giving the public the middle finger. They trick the audience into thinking "this is what we wanted to focus on as writers"
And the excuse that we are only covering the questions that the characters want to have answered?!? WTF IS THAT? THEY WROTE THE CHARACTERS!!! I like puzzles as much as the next guy, but i don't want to put together a puzzle only to find out that there are tons of missing pieces. Then to be told the puzzle is there for me to imagine my own interpretation of what the puzzle is. I disagree. I watched the show to cause it was truley engaging and i wanted to see how they were going to bring it all together. Instead they gave us half a show and want the audience to image the rest.
In the end it took them 6 seasons to answer who adam and eve were. What a pile of nuts. I am never watching anything either of those 2 f**k heads are ever involved with again.
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Post by jacksloststepkid on May 27, 2010 3:05:32 GMT -5
If you still have season 6 episode 1 on your DVR you HAVE to watch the part where Sawyer goes into the wreckage to get Juilet. As she's dying she says "we should get coffee sometime", "we can go dutch", and "kiss me". According to Christian the limbo world can last just a nanosecond... in that scene it seems like Juilet lived her entire limbo life in just seconds while Sawyer was holding her as she was dying. Then Miles read her grave and told Sawyer "it worked" which we now know goes back/forward/sideways (whatever) to the vending machine... "it worked". I think we all better get going on rewatching season 6 to see what other answers are buried deep in the limbo flashes. I agree... I think there are a lot of gems hidden in the FS stories we saw this season that hint at what was going to happen. How about Jack asking about when his appendix was removed? He couldn't remember it & even his mother was surprised that he couldn't remember. Have to rewatch ep1, but I wonder if that scar he is looking at asking about his appendix is the one from which he died from.... If so, what a great tie in from episode 1. JLSK |
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Post by inkypawprints on May 27, 2010 6:59:21 GMT -5
I gotta say I don't think the FS was Purgatory. It was the last cycle of there "lives". Let me explain. Everyone in the entire world dies and gets reincarnated into themselves in their next lives over and over again. "See you in another life, brother" hints towards this. Every time you relive your life you make slightly better choices ie "It only ends once, everything else is progress". The losties experiences on the island matured them spiritually so in there next life (the flash sideways) they made the best choices they could with what they had, reached their potential, found enlightenment (flashes of previous lives) and moved on to heaven or whatever is beyond this life... I like it too... And, it seems that Flashes Before Your Eyes could be described as a "near death" experience for Desmond? Which would be huge foreshadowing? |
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Post by inkypawprints on May 27, 2010 7:05:37 GMT -5
I don't think anyone mentioned this yet, although i thought it was pretty obvious. The Church was the same place that The Lampost was, right? Anyone think there is any connection here to the original Lampost's function (to find the island) or vice versa? Was there a deeper religious meaning to The Lampost and finding The Island? Or was it just a well known church that most of them knew from their time in LA. Obviously The Sideways is concocted based on their joint consciousness memories, so its possible that it (like everything else in the Sideways) really means nothing more than coincidence. While we don't know 100% who was leading this get-together, it would seem it was Desmond's idea to go here as he dropped off The Coffin. Yes, I recognized that it was the Lamppost. Very nice symbolism. I thought for a moment that they were going to use it to get back to the island again....but, when Jack was standing by the coffin and I realized that when he opens it it's going to be empty and then it hit me...that he was dead, I felt then that the Lamppost was taking them someplace else. I really, really loved the ending. I know there were unanswered questions that I would have liked to see answered, but really....it didn't take away from the ending for me. |
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Post by spinaltumor on May 27, 2010 9:14:37 GMT -5
I think the appendix scar is supposed to be his stab wound from MIL.
Funny that it doesn't bleed like the neck wound, though.
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Post by inkypawprints on May 27, 2010 9:48:33 GMT -5
^^ Yeah, I would have thought the stab wound would have been the more obvious "bleed over" to the Sideways.
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