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Post by tygh on May 29, 2010 11:40:38 GMT -5
I have to agree with Schopenhauer. Season 6 was expected to deal with a lot of questions that had been created thru the first 5 seasons. I got the sense pretty fast that we weren't gonna get many answers......I do think they painted themselves into a few corners and decided not to deal with that.
The finale was one of my favorite episodes, but it certainly disappointed me in the final few minutes.
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Post by tygh on May 29, 2010 11:48:22 GMT -5
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Post by LockeRulez on May 29, 2010 12:42:23 GMT -5
I loved EVERY minute of this show to the end, but this sums up LOST's aftertaste for me: lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/File:Capsule_dump.jpgI'm sure the capsules are chock full of awesome stuff, including sunshine, rainbows, magical horses and polar bears, and a great happy ending... But in the end, they're just a big pile of capsules. I think I see Darlton grinning at us from the bushes: "Suckers"... and of course, i can't really complain or hate on this.. as i really loved the idea of the capsules at the time and how they were just messing with people. so of course i can't complain when the tables are turned on me. |
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Post by cucumberjones on May 29, 2010 15:18:35 GMT -5
What's wrong with the capsules? You want an answer to the capsules? Because I think that's something that is answered without being "answered."
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Post by spinaltumor on May 29, 2010 18:45:26 GMT -5
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Post by witheyesclosed on May 29, 2010 21:06:40 GMT -5
I finding it fitting and interesting that they didn't put the explanation bar at the bottom of the screen during the reairing of the last 10 minutes or so. Still enjoy it each time I watch it and can't wait for the epilogue from the bluray. Supposed to be like 15 minutes of footage after the time that Jack dies and gets to the sideways. Hurley and Ben time I'm guessing.
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Post by LockeRulez on May 29, 2010 21:59:50 GMT -5
What's wrong with the capsules? You want an answer to the capsules? Because I think that's something that is answered without being "answered." i think you misunderstood. there is nothing wrong with the capsules. We got our answer to the capsules: that those Dharmies were being strung along with some supposed important explanation about instructions to observe all this stuff going on and report back. they sent them up through the tube, but the joke was on them. the instructions they were given were misleading, and it was just the act of observation that was important. I was trying to state that's sort of how I feel. That we observed all sorts of awesome stuff, but in the end it was for naught. of course that's a bit extreme. it wasn't for naught, but it was just the act of observation (of the characters) that mattered, and not the events themselves or the promise that it would all add up to something more than it was. in the end, most things just had simple explanations (like maybe there was never really anything special about Walt or Aaron), and when you see the "pile of capsules" (ie: episodes) revealed in the ending you realize you should not have read into it more or expected to get more answers. And i'm ok that some answers weren't given or were only implied, but there were plenty that either meant nothing or were not answered and really needed to be, in my opinion. I only caught the second half of the re-airing tonight, and again, i still say this was the best episode of the series. amazing episode, and i was on the verge of tears almost the entire time. I find (almost) nothing wrong with The Sideways, and thought it was a great concept to have them come together to "let go". (The only thing I didn't like were things like David and Mr. & Mrs. Jack + Juliet that were introduced only to get tossed aside at the end so you can "move on".) The Sideways were a hugely satisfying ending for me for the characters. Overall its just the aftertaste that sits poorly with me, seeing the puzzle all put together. seeing all those "capsules" of episodes just lying there. What's in each one is great, but they just don't add up to what i thought they were going to. I'm not angry or anything, i enjoyed it (tremendously) while it lasted, but I was only given half of what I was led to believe I would be given in the end. Of course I can't really blame anyone, as there was never any promise we would get any answers, it just diminishes the power of the show for me knowing that only the character side was answered, and not the other parts that were just as integral to the show. Its pretty hard for me to put some of this in words, as I'm so torn on the show now. But I hope this explains a bit of how I'm feeling. |
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Post by tygh on May 31, 2010 18:24:00 GMT -5
d**n, I believe I have been trumped!!! Very, very good. I also have to say that Lockerulz captures my feelings very well. I am hopeful that the dvd extras for season 6 help me with my mild disappointment. |
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Post by Linda on Jun 2, 2010 11:10:30 GMT -5
Well, I liked the last episode but I didn't really get the end.
Have they been dead the whole time (the entire show?)
I'm confused.
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Post by Uncle Igmar on Jun 2, 2010 16:34:40 GMT -5
Well, I liked the last episode but I didn't really get the end. Have they been dead the whole time (the entire show?) I'm confused.
EVERYTHING that happened off of the island in the 1st 5 seasons happened to people who were alive. From the second you see Jack back on the plane talking to Rose at the beginning of Season 6 - it's after he died and the whole "off island" story was getting people to realize that they were dead and to meet up at the church and "move on".
In other words - 11/12th of LOST - alive - 1/12th of LOST - dead. I'll leave you to figure out what I mean by that LOL
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Post by channingd on Jun 3, 2010 10:43:50 GMT -5
Oh man, that's funny! But seriously, where are the answers? |
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Post by spinaltumor on Jun 3, 2010 11:38:10 GMT -5
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Post by Linda on Jun 3, 2010 14:04:08 GMT -5
Well, I liked the last episode but I didn't really get the end. Have they been dead the whole time (the entire show?) I'm confused.
EVERYTHING that happened off of the island in the 1st 5 seasons happened to people who were alive. From the second you see Jack back on the plane talking to Rose at the beginning of Season 6 - it's after he died and the whole "off island" story was getting people to realize that they were dead and to meet up at the church and "move on".
In other words - 11/12th of LOST - alive - 1/12th of LOST - dead. I'll leave you to figure out what I mean by that LOL
Alright thank you but... haha I feel like a fool. Shortly after the last episode I thought that the airplane never got to the island and that they all died (in the airplane which was found in the sea) and that the whole show was just part of the afterlife. I'm still confused. Gli autori di lost sono dei bastardi!!!! I mean I was satisfied with the ending but somehow... argh I don't know. |
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Post by spinaltumor on Jun 3, 2010 15:56:01 GMT -5
The airplane wreckage that was aired during the credits was added by abc to make the transition from the show to the news easier. It wasn't meant to be part of the show. It was just stock footage from the pilot episode of the 815 wreckage.
When the big L O S T shows up on screen, that's it! That's the real and only end.
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Post by faradaddyo on Jun 6, 2010 19:43:42 GMT -5
I loved this episode! While I was a little disappointed in the beginning that they were not "answering" more things. While all is said and done I like the way they went with it. They left A LOT up to the audience to decide and I think this is what has always made the show GREAT! it might have been great during the series, but to see in the end that they had no vision, is quite a disappointment. it's not like they left holes for the audience to fill in for themselves, they left the series of important factors so unexplained that there's really nothing the audience can do except try to defend the writers, making up stories to the effect 'I bet this is what the writers were thinking', 'I bet ya couldn't give birth on the island because...', 'I bet Dharma had people filing reports to be dumped in the middle of nowhere because...', 'I bet they couldn't program a computer to execute a function every 108 minutes because...', etc., based on a complete lack of leads from the show such that really it's just a worthless endeavor. I never imagined my forum namesake would become so relevant. this is how I feel about the series right now... "In early youth, as we contemplate our coming life, we are like children in a theatre before the curtain is raised, sitting there in high spirits and eagerly waiting for the play to begin. It is a blessing that we do not know what is really going to happen. ...you may look upon life as an unprofitable episode, disturbing the blessed calm of non-existence. And, in any case, even though things have gone with you tolerably well, the longer you live the more clearly you will feel that, on the whole, life is a disappointment, nay, a cheat." - Arthur Schopenhauer, Studies in Pessimism My one word of advice to those that hated how the series was wrapped up (because it left many unanswered questions), is to revisit one of the over-arching themes of this series, which is acceptance. If you notice, Jack struggles all the way to the end, trying to figure things out, to fix things, to make things perfect. We see him fight this when flashes start, but suddenly stop because he is not ready yet. His ability to transcend was contingent on his eventual ability to let go. In a weird twist, I think the biggest critics are stuck in a similar situation that Jack faced - not wanting to make peace with things as they are (instead of wasting time obsessing about how it all fits together). This is reminiscent of Daniel Faraday, who really all his life obsessed about the meta-physical properties of the island, driven by his mother of all people to try to figure it all out. Would that be the ideal after-life for our friend Daniel? Continuing to traipse around the island, notebook in hand, trying to find that one formula that will spell out the entire meaning of it all? I say emphatically, No. His after-life would be as a musician, living throughout eternity with his soul-mate, Charlotte. Just as it was meant to be. Again, acceptance and peace vs. unending desire for knowledge. So to all of those Lost fans that hated the finale, or just the final 10 minutes, I think it is worth giving the overall message another chance. After all, it could be that you are the one who is not quite ready yet... |
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