"The End" Disc Ep 6x17-18

[lifi12085]

I dont know if I loved it, but I didnt hate it.

Here is what I think the explanation of the end (well last 10 minutes is).

I think it all comes down to the Hurley/Ben conversation about leaving the island. Since Hurley was the new protector, he could also make the rules. I think this was a rule he created. It seemed very hurleyesque and I think it might explain why he was the one who could see all of the dead people.

I do wish they would have explained what time the island timeline was at, imagine the plane landing somewhere in say, 1870 or something? can you say awkward?

[lafours]

Ok, well I'm good with not getting everything answered, not everything needs to be paint by numbers. And there will always be endless theories as to what/how things went down.
But The End, just going through my second viewing as I type this. Really liked it, a fitting ending. And fitting that it aired on Pentecost.
Enjoyed the idea of the in between as something you create and having to remember who you are and what you did. And it may seem that this in between has been going on for some time, it can really be seconds. And it took a "Shepherd" to bring those lost souls together. And the various religious symbols was a nice touch.
Man and thinking back to the opening of the first episode. The turbulence may have been Jack's death rattle of sorts....and Rose saying you can let go....man how'd I miss that. So the in between starts on the flight.
Definitely still have questions, but they don't really matter in light of the big picture stuff.
Oh and thinking of what the Hurley/Ben administration on the island was like...ahhh the possibilities. And loved the Jacob's like yoda line...great stuff.
Ok enough rambling for my first post. Lemme get back to this finale.

[macefromdowndaroad]

Oh and folks, lets not lose sight of several accomplices to the madness of the so called “mysteries” and the fanaticism they caused: Verizon, Sprite, especially the ABC network – including ABC.com, and any others that used special scene clips and exclusive content in their product or service advertisements. The broken Dharma film clips; the Dharma website; the Comic-Con skits; and other various methods to keep our attention whenever the actual show was not on the air feeding the hunger to solve this “mystery” that they sold us on the idea that it was there but there was no “mystery” per se.

[robertsleep]

Ben did not move on because, at least from what I got from there conversation, Hurly made Ben into a sort of "Richard" to his "Jacob", Ben chose to become an immortal guardian of the island and help the "Jacobs" that came after Hurley.

As for the sideways answer, Sideways world is heaven, There own personal feelings of incompleteness in both the side world and the real world have been dealt with, in the real world they served their purpose and fulfilled their destiny (killing smokey, protecting the Island) they are now free to live with the people they love in this new world. Christian opening the door and the white light helped everyone move on into this new life.

[windmutt]

Based on how Jack ends the show, notice he has the same wound and is looking up as he was in the beginning. That is because they all died in the plane crash. The show was about finding peace with your past and moving on.

[msbroberts]

Lost was good..but I am a little peeved, since I said it was purgatory from either the 2nd or 3rd show, and they said, "No...it's not purgatory".

So these people needed to prove themselves and 'let go' to move on. Those who didn't prove themselves or were not ready yet...like Michael, Ana Lucia, didn't....and showing B...en just outside...Ben is almost ready, but not quite. Sounds like purgatory to me.

I feel a bit let down.

[womaninwhite]

I loved this episode! While I was a little disappointed in the beginning that they were not "answering" more things. While all is said and done I like the way they went with it. They left A LOT up to the audience to decide and I think this is what has always made the show GREAT!

As for my take on the ending: I think everything we saw on the island really happened. There really was a plane crash, people really survived, got off, came back, and got off again. I think that Hurry and Ben were "number one and number two" of the island and they probably lived a long time together. I think that Jack died on the island after the explosion. If you listen to what Christian said when he was speaking to Jack beside the coffin he said: (in response to jack asking if they were all dead) "yes jack, some died before you and some died after you". The "sideways" Oceanic flight was something they all knew so in limbo that was the place they created so they could meet when they all died and pass on to "heaven" together. In support of this theory Hurley also says to ben outside of the church "hey man you were a great number two" and ben says "you were a great number one". Just my interpretation though...it's great to hear what everyone else is coming up with!

[jacksloststepkid]

Hey there,

I agree with you womaninwhite. I thought Jimmy Kimmel nailed it too. Basically the redemption of Jack, beginning and ending with him, even though some died before and some after.

I would have liked to have had a few more answers, but am pretty happy to have the ending we did that emphasized people's relationships, etc.

I am sure that the producers/writers didn't have absolute answers to everything and there clearly were some holes in the overall plot, but given how complex the show got, it isn't surprising.

If I imagine what the show would have been like without the sideways world, with just the island and Jack dying at the end, it would have been pretty bittersweet and less satisfying than being able to get the nicer happy ending. That they were able to keep everyone guessing with the whole "what the heck is this sidways world anyway" was just icing on the cake.

I have to say, one big plot whole that I just don't get. What the heck happened with the end of season 5 -did setting off the bomb do nothing more than trigger a new time flash for all the losties? maybe causing some issues with radioactivity on the island, causing the death in childbirth issues? I would have liked a clearer answer on that and some of the other time travel stuff (why did some flash off the Ajira plane back 30 years and some stay on the plane? Seems pretty arbitrary and purely to serve the telling of a good story...)

This all said, it was a great ride, and lots of fun experiencing it all along side you all.

[Locke 4 Life]

What a fantastic finale!! I loved the presence of the stained glass window at the end during the HUGE converstion between Jack and Christian. It had spiritual symbols from many different belief systems which was very appropriate given that so many wonderful themes of LOST are universal... The more I think about the finale, the more I love it!

[primitivx]

This Show was just a remake of Jacob's Ladder, a movie that took just an hour and a half to get to the same conclusion and didn't screw people off for 6 years with non relevant stuff.

[jacksonjessop]

I think everyone is thinking too much. Way too much. It's very straight forward

Jack died on The Island after having the "Power" which he passed on to Hurley. Hurley is on the Island, the new Jacob.

MIB is dead, killed by Jack.

Ben is on the Island, being Richard for Hurley. He still has to find redemption and seemed to start by saying to Hurley that he
can do things differently from Jacob.

Everyone we saw die in the last 4 episodes is dead. Jin, Sun, Whitmore etc

Everyone else Sawyer, Kate, Claire, Frank, Richard, Myles is on the Agera Plane.

Jack saw the plane fly over as he died. They got away.

The sideways world was an alternate reality which occurred after the bomb. It was a meta physical place
where everyone was alive living, possibly all in a "better place". As events on the island came to a point so did events in the Flash Sideways. This had to happen to coincide with events concluding on the island. As that story ended, the Flash Sideways dissolved, all
the characters finding redemption, conclusion, etc. They all had to remember about the "real world (the island world)" to let things
play out on the Island.

The reason Ben was left outside was because he's still on the island finding his conclusion, as opposed to Hurley who finds it and is with the others.

All the rest was just great storytelling, Christian, the religious symbols (lovely touch).

The Island is still out there, everything happened as we saw it, they didn't all die in the crash ! Hurley and
Ben reside there, with Vincent ready for the next people to arrive...... if they ever do.

I thought it was awesome, a great ending, but most of the posts I think are trying to read too much into things.
Everything Carlton and Damon have said about the finale points to this finale being much simpler than people are making out.

An awesome end to an awesome show.

[Sanchez!]

given that we were shown that the island was underwater in the sideways timeline in LAX Part 1 i think... could that have indicated that Hurley and Ben eventually sunk the island? Ben hinted that Hurley could approach things in a different way to Jacob, ie continuously bringing people to the island, perhaps he chose to destroy it.

Just one of the several million questions swarming round my head at the moment!

Loved it up until the last 10 minutes... although to be fair I think the ending will grow on me... hopefully!

[youngben]

I've watched the finale twice now, and I'm still struggling with it all to be honest.

I get the idea of "off island" being a "waiting room" where they get to right their wrongs so they can pass through to the other side (redemption/purgatory?) when they're all ready to move on. And I get that "on island" was real life where our losties survived flight 815 and learned to adapt and get on with each other in a way that they couldn't pre-815.

But, what about the donkey wheel? What about Ben's magic box? What about jughead? What about going back to 1977? What about Hanso & Darma? What about the four-toed statue? What did pressing the button really do? What about the Darma food drops? What about the pregnancies (or lack of) on the island? What was MIB's name? And why was Walt so special?

I don't suppose we'll ever really know these answers or a million others - I guess that's why we loved the show so much - because it wasn't handed to us on a plate.

I will miss the show and the cast - there will never be anything to replace Lost - it was truly unique with fantastic scripts, superb acting and marvellous vision from the directors and producers.

Jay & Jack, hats off to you guys for all of your efforts over the past 5 years - The Lost Podcast has been an integral part of the whole experience and I'll miss you guys as much as I'll miss the show.

Namaste!

Dave in Peterborough, UK.

[Denny]

I just don't know.
It was overwhelming for sure. But... I don't know how I feel lol. I don't know if I buy it I guess that's what I'm saying. The execution of the final "explanation" - i'm not sure i bought it. I liked parts of it and others felt cheesy and lacking. But... it was certainly moving. So many moving scenes.

I'll have to rewatch it a lot. ;D And I'll friggin miss this show.

quite unlike anything to ever be on tv. props to all of them =]

[vrmarc]

I think the finale was excellent!!! I didn't like all the commercials and we had technical difficulties here in Cleveland so they're showing it again on Saturday.

One of the many things I thought was interesting is that the island being sunk is part of the 'special' place they created for themselves. Even though they were brought to an island where they received a clean slate and this is where they all met, their 'special' place was based in LA and the special island was underwater.

Were the writers trying to tell us that you can change the direction of your life and get a fresh start all you have to do is let go of fear, stop running, believe in yourself, stop seeking revenge, trust others, love others, realize what's done is done and stop looking back? And that you can do all these things without moving to a magical location like the island?