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Post by LockeRulez on May 18, 2010 22:30:06 GMT -5
Unfortunately, some of this isn't quite how I was hoping things to turn out, but here we go:
1) More than Jack will be the new Protector. That was too easy. One or all of Hurley, Sawyer, and Kate will drink from the river. Jacob blessing the river water is a convenient way to get more people to drink. Sawyer is definitely in a "needs redemption" mood. Having more than one Protector will be key to defeating unLocke.
And how long do you think the magic water will last if others drink from that spot? will it spread throughout the island to other water sources and make more people Protectors? Will it spread through time (via an electromagnetic pocket) and make the rest of our characters into Protectors? Is this somehow the connection that leads all our dead people to still exist in the Sideways? Did they drink Magic Water at some point before they died? That's probably too crackpotty.
2) Widmore is setting up unLocke. He knew he was going to die, and told unLocke what he thought he needed to hear. It sounds like not even Jacob knows how to kill unLocke. But somehow Widmore figured out that Desmond is the key, and tricked unLocke into using Desmond to kill himself by activating the failsafe. This will beat unLocke.
3) unLocke will cause one of the electromagnetic pockets to activate with Desmond as the failsafe, causing all the losties (and somehow dead people) to jump into the Sideways. In the sideways, Dez has figured this out, and maybe figured out how to get back. While this will happen to the Losties, this electromagnetic force will destroy Smokey (since Widmore tricked him) before (or as) they all jump to the Sideways, as he came from an electromagnetic force.
4) The Locke we've seen in the sideways is just another one of the dead people that got sent to the Sideways.. Locke, Ana Lucia, Libby, Charlotte, etc. He's not MIB. MIB will be destroyed by the electromagnetism that sends everyone to The Sideways.
5) And now the Losties can come back from the Sideways and the island is saved. And somehow everyone who died will be "alive" again so they can all have a nice picnic with a few Dharma beers and Apollo Bars.
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Post by faradaystie on May 19, 2010 10:57:37 GMT -5
After listening to 'Darlton's' final podcast, I came up with this crazy idea about the end---but I don't know how to back it up with evidence--it's all just supposition. When Jacob was born, there wasn't really a 2nd baby. It was just Jacob & he had a split personality which 'Mother' developed because she was kinda skitzoid herself. All the time growing up, it was just Jacob and his imaginary friend! (I think crackpot Jack was right all along) The details can be argued about forever once the End is televised!
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Post by LockeRulez on May 19, 2010 21:12:58 GMT -5
huh? but we saw Mother deliver 2 babies...
err.. i guess you're saying that Mother tricked herself into thinking there was a second one.
But we saw the real mom go into labor twice... hmm..
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Post by monsterjester on May 20, 2010 2:23:45 GMT -5
From the look of her belly, there was a third baby that never made it out.
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Post by eking64 on May 20, 2010 7:13:33 GMT -5
I don't think it is the river, more the ritual that makes one a protector and I don't think there can be more than 1 protector. Obviously we are lead to believe that things go bad and that is the reason for the "flash sideways" and Desmond raising havoc in it. Must be part of the "fail-safe" that was mentioned. Richard isn't dead, Jacob granted him immortality. I am not sure what happens with him when the island is destroyed though.
Somehow I think Ben ends up being the new MIB, but Ben doesn't want to ever leave the Island. This could go a hundred different ways, hate that it is coming to an end.
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Post by LockeRulez on May 21, 2010 7:48:45 GMT -5
if Ben becomes the new MIB, doesn't it follow suit that Ben will actually become the new Smokey? I think we see tons of parallels between Ben and the Smokey side of MIB. Judging people, protecting the island, etc. What if his sacrifice is that somehow MIB is incapacitated and Ben takes him down into the cave of light. and Ben becomes another Smokey and is able to neutralize MIB Smokey by either merging their "smokiness" or overpowering him. I do like the idea that (maybe) there can only be 1 Jacob at a time, and maybe this applies to Smokey too if Ben goes into the cave with MIB and only one can emerge. Despite Ben being a mean guy, he always did what was good for the island, and this role as a new Smoke Monster would be the ultimate extension of ben truly becoming the ultimate security system to protect the island.
And that would clear up the disconnect about Smokey supposedly being a security system. it was just a setup to get Ben into that role.
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Post by LockeRulez on May 21, 2010 8:50:15 GMT -5
Also, I think all the times we've seen Jack's Eye or him "wake up" will be the one final reveal to the story. I'm not sure how this will play out, but near the end we will get a montage (similar to the Adam & Eve reveal) of all of Jack's "wake up" moments, and how they were always threaded through the show. More specific than the show just ending with just "one more eye moment", they will actually all be tied together to reveal something that has been going on from Day 1. (I think we got a new one last week too.)
Now that he's the new Jacob, this opens up a door of possibilities for new special powers/etc. And maybe its something like Desmond flashing around that Jack can now do safely (or will be able to sacrifice himself as the real failsafe). So somehow this will be the final act for Jack to protect the island and/or defeat MIB, leading to the revelation of all his "wake up" moments being all tied together somehow.
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Post by ForTheIsland on May 21, 2010 12:06:09 GMT -5
OMG if the show went out on someone's eye closing...OMG
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Post by spinaltumor on May 21, 2010 12:47:17 GMT -5
The image Matthew Fox has always known? DUN DUN DUN
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Post by cucumberjones on May 21, 2010 15:08:02 GMT -5
OMG if the show went out on someone's eye closing...OMG I've been saying, for about 2 years now, that the show will end with Jack's death and his eye closing. It would be poetic. But I don't fully believe that anymore. Instead, I have a theory as to how the whole thing will end. If it does end this way, I will be thoroughly happy: The second timeline isn't an alternate timeline, but rather a split timeline. Going back in time and severely changing something (i.e. detonating Jughead) created a second timeline. Both the normal timeline and the flash sideways now both exist. But when they detonated Jughead, it blew up the island and destroyed the light, sinking the island for good. One theory as to why this couldn't have happened, is that people we've seen in the sideways (Ben, Roger, Chang, etc) were on the island at that time and thus they would be dead. But perhaps the island being destroyed didn't happen instantaneously. They might have been able to evacuate the island before it became completely sunken. Now in the normal timeline, I think the island will somehow again be destroyed. Maybe by MIB, Jack, Desmond, Ben or any combination of these key people. I think that MIB will leave the island, and as Jacob said, everyone would then cease to exist. I don't know what that means, but I think that this timeline will be destroyed in one way or another. The world will end. Then we'll be left with only one timeline, the flash sideways, where most of our Losties are living better, happier, lives. Now maybe I've gotten details wrong (like how the flash sideways timeline came into existence), but I think that the timeline we've spent 6 years with will ultimately cease to exist and we'll be left with only the flash sideways world. And maybe some would consider this a cop-out, but I wouldn't. It's not the same as all of this just being someone's dream, because everything that we've seen happen would have really happened. And we would witness our Losties meet the end of their respective lives. It would just so happen that a different version of themselves is living another life altogether. Ultimately, I would be just as happy with a different ending, but this is just me waxing about how I think the flash sideways fits in and the series will be concluded. It isn't a great theory, but it's what I thought made the most sense.
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Post by cucumberjones on May 22, 2010 22:02:05 GMT -5
I take all that back. I still maintain it as one hypothesis, but I think Jack will be the island's protector for a long, long time. Either that, or MIB will be killed and Jack won't have to.
Ahh heck, there's about 10 different scenarios I can think of that would work well, but I'm just going to sit back and enjoy the show.
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Post by ttscott on May 23, 2010 11:16:53 GMT -5
I haven't had a chance to read all the posts so forgive me if this has already been brought up...
I think in the sideways world Locke and/or Jack will somehow discover that Locke needs to die in order to save all the Losties (or maybe the world!?). Locke will ask Jack to let him die on the operating table. Locke will want to be a hero. Any thoughts?
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Post by LockeRulez on May 23, 2010 11:46:18 GMT -5
Another crackpot theory: David == Desmond.
I don't think we know who Desmond's parents are. And Desmond's middle name is David. I'm guessing we'll see some scene where somehow lil'David's real name is exposed, but he says to Jack something like "Dad, don't call me Desmond, you know I like to go by my middle name, David"...
and so as he grows up, he gets over it, and goes back to his first name.. and somehow gets separated from Jack to grow up in UK.
And of course this ties his "specialness" in to Jack, possibly if we see that the Sideways are AFTER The Island, and Jack is the new Jacob, fathering "special" David. And since we know Des travels through time, he could easily end up back on The Island (in his future) after growing up (in The Sideways).
I'm still trying to find a good reason to introduce David so prominently, and this may be it.
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Post by spinaltumor on May 23, 2010 14:13:04 GMT -5
Desmond introduced himself on the plane to Jack though, didn't he? You would think Jack would've commented on that.
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Post by cucumberjones on May 23, 2010 14:52:19 GMT -5
I think people are looking into David a little too much. I think he's simply been introduced to us to show us what could have been (or however it relates to the sideways).
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