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Post by witheyesclosed on Apr 17, 2010 17:49:33 GMT -5
Correct me if I'm wrong, but why don't I see more discussion about Kate? Based on both universes she's really the only one that has had the same path. Maybe it is true that she didn't do anything (considering she wanted Claire to believe her). But what if she's a key similar to Desmond. She had that weird moment with Jack and the kiss, then again with Sawyer when talking to her dad. MIB seemed hesitant to tell Claire whether Kate was on the list or not and follows that up by saying, once she's helps get them on plane, whatever happens, happens (as opposes to happened). What if she is one of the candidates? And I only say this because the AU is somewhat flipped, but I believe her candidate number is 51 (only one that is a reverse of one of the numbers). And then the next part due to the promo contest did you see the number of clips that included her? she also then has that balance of Jack and Sawyer, with both tugging at her strings as well. Which takes us back to season one. Was her simply coming out of the jungle the only explanation of what happened to her after the crash? Where did she land and does she remember anything. I still have a feeling that when she tells the marshal to promise her something, she gives a look and hesitation right before the turbulance. What if she makes the ultimate sacrifice at the end? Just a thought. Should be one more Kate centric episode right? |
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Post by spinaltumor on Apr 18, 2010 1:30:57 GMT -5
No one talks about Kate 'cause no one likes her, haha.
Why should there be another Kate centric? What Kate Does was rated terribly. They can finish her story with everyone else's in multicentrics.
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Post by ForTheIsland on Apr 18, 2010 3:39:39 GMT -5
LOL I like Kate, she's not the most attention drawing character, but that's an interesting theory!
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Post by renmiked on Apr 18, 2010 15:05:28 GMT -5
When I saw Kate I "Everybody Loves Hugo" I just rolled my eyes. If her character ends up being that important, I would be disappointed because of how inconsequencial she has been to the story overall. At this point Kate is just a secondary character who gets in the way by dragging us back to the played out love triangle.
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Post by monsterjester on Apr 18, 2010 15:38:18 GMT -5
Maybe in the alt-world Kate will choose Jack AND Sawyer and they'll live in sinful, polyamorous bliss.
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Post by wesh on Apr 18, 2010 17:41:39 GMT -5
Kate better do something really mind blowing, or something really dramatic needs to happen to her, before she'll start to appear interesting again in my eyes and before I'd accept her as a solid candidate too.
Her story has gotten pretty boring. I hope that changes.
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Post by charliesring on Apr 19, 2010 10:36:04 GMT -5
By the way, I want to point out the end of "Recon" when Sawyer runs down and catches a hooded character who turns out to be Kate. When he grabs her and looks at her, we assume he has a look of shock because he recognizes her from the airport. But after seeing the last two episodes, perhaps Sawyer's memories of the island flashed before his eyes (or maybe Kate flashed).
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Post by Denny on Apr 21, 2010 3:39:28 GMT -5
mmmm this made me think of something, the other couples all have had their deja vus by now - Kate and Sawyer haven't had their romantic lovey dovey deja vu yet - wonder if that's an indication that it will be Jack in the end.
honestly I'd be ok if Kate, Sawyer and Jack went their separate ways in the end - but that's probably not gonna happen. she will choose one, or the three of them will die and it won't matter. My guess is that Sawyer dies (which is not something that makes me happy as he is one of my favorites - but writers seem to have been writing a Sawyer losing his game at the same time Jack seems to be getting back on his) and jack and kate will stay in the island.
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Post by spinaltumor on Apr 21, 2010 8:50:56 GMT -5
I don't think remembering should (hopefully!) not have to do with ~love~ every time. By not having Kate deja vu with Jack or Sawyer would help her escape the love triangle and prove she's more than just a love interest.
Jack can deja vu with Locke. Sawyer can deja vu with Juliet. Kate...with helping deliver Aaron again?
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Post by Denny on Apr 21, 2010 13:13:32 GMT -5
I don't think remembering should (hopefully!) not have to do with ~love~ every time. By not having Kate deja vu with Jack or Sawyer would help her escape the love triangle and prove she's more than just a love interest. Jack can deja vu with Locke. Sawyer can deja vu with Juliet. Kate...with helping deliver Aaron again? I kinda like that, specially the Kate helping to deliver Aaron again. and well - so far it seems most deja vus happen either when you're about to die or when you have a moment with someone loved. And Ben Linus... I don't quite remember, did he have any deja vu with Alex - I don't think he did. |
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Post by jackkate4ever on Apr 27, 2010 14:28:32 GMT -5
Some seem to have forgotten that both times that Kate and Jack saw each other - they had a moment where it was made obvious that they were remembering something - once on the plane, and once while Kate was in the cab at the airport. They may not be the total trigger for one another to remember everything, but they definitely have some sort of connection in the flash sideways. Although my forum username implies how I would like for Kate to end up  , I agree that it would be great if Kate remembers the Island timeline while she is with Claire as she delivers Aaron. And then she'll come out of the delivery room, see Jack and they will reunite  |
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Post by jackkate4ever on Apr 27, 2010 14:31:49 GMT -5
I saw this great post in the fuselage's forum..... (http://forum.thefuselage.com/showthread.php?t=124997)
"Just trying to find new things to chat about since there is no new episode this week by 'Thruthefog'.
Sawyer will reunite them. Say WHAT? Yep!
Assuming the wild child doesn't break out of her handcuffs, and she doesn't sweet talk her way to freedom, and Sawyer didn't hide a key in that little red apple he left on the desk, I'm guessing that the police will assume the credit card that Kate has in her possession was stolen from Miss Claire Littleton. They'll have to contact her. Claire will want to help Kate because she risked a lot to help Claire and her baby when they really needed it. Claire will feel compelled to ask Jack and Ilana for help. Jack and Kate have already had a couple of brief "moments" of "do I know you?". What happens if they get involved in another trial, and Jack remembers how much he loves her?
What do you guys think?
Sorry Sawyer and Kate fans. I really want Sawyer to be happy, but I really think he is better with Juliet.! He was going to ask her to Marry him!! And who knows? Hopefully we will see her again?? "
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Post by lostswede on May 5, 2010 9:47:02 GMT -5
Im with you , i think its a good theory. Assuming that they all will somehow die on the island ( at least i think Kate and sawyer has to die to make the end reach eppicness) I DO WANT to know that Kate and Jack will live happily ever after in the flash sideway! |
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Post by snowflake on May 7, 2010 0:17:22 GMT -5
I just recently re-watched part of Season 3, including the episode "Enter 77". With all this talk about whether or not Kate is a candidate, I totally forgot that it had already been mentioned in this episode that Kate is no longer "on the list", or so that is what Mikhail tells Kate in this episode. Of course, Mikhail also lied about being in Dharma so who knows. Just though it interesting that as far back as Season 3, there's been references to Kate "not being on the list".
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Post by markedman on May 7, 2010 12:21:34 GMT -5
Just to clarify, Kate is crossed out in the Cave. She is not crossed out in the Lighthouse. No idea if this is a meaningful or a mistake.
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, I agree that it would be great if Kate remembers the Island timeline while she is with Claire as she delivers Aaron. 