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Post by jlyn1980 on Jul 16, 2009 15:59:01 GMT -5
I wanted to start a thread for anyone rewatching the whole series or just bits and pieces in episodes. As I'm watching "The Hunting Party." I saw something interesting.
When Jack and Locke are talking about bringing Michael back with them. Jack said that he would be able to bring Michael back. It was funny because than Locke says to Jack, "Who are we to tell anyone what they can or can't do?" Which I thought funny because in this season Locke was the one that was telling everyone they had to go back to the island. Trying to make the Oceanic 6 do something they did not want to do.
I love the rewatch I think I've picked up on more and more. It really is a puzzle and the pieces are starting to fill in. There are only a few pieces left. I LOVE THIS SHOW
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Post by markedman on Jul 16, 2009 20:44:51 GMT -5
I'm not re-watching the show, as much as I would like to, but perhaps those who are could help satisfy my curiosity about something. My gut instinct after five years is that the show was much less planned out than Damon and Carlton seem to imply. I'm thinking something like: "Plane crashes on the island, weird things happen, eventually we find out its a battle between two greek gods, BIG FINISH!" and then everything else got made up one season at a time, or less. So, for those of you re-watching, is there anything that was pointed to more than one season ahead (discounting season cliff hangers to season opener tie-ins)?
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Post by danthew on Jul 17, 2009 9:05:05 GMT -5
I'm not re-watching the show, as much as I would like to, but perhaps those who are could help satisfy my curiosity about something. My gut instinct after five years is that the show was much less planned out than Damon and Carlton seem to imply. I'm thinking something like: "Plane crashes on the island, weird things happen, eventually we find out its a battle between two greek gods, BIG FINISH!" and then everything else got made up one season at a time, or less. So, for those of you re-watching, is there anything that was pointed to more than one season ahead (discounting season cliff hangers to season opener tie-ins)? I don't think it's possible to have something hinted at for more than one season ahead. Each season "zooms out" and we get a bigger picture. We couldn't see the rest of the picture so it was impossible to predict stuff. The only thing I can think of is Adam and Eve, people guessed about time travel so that the skeletons could be of a couple of Losties. |
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Post by spinaltumor on Jul 17, 2009 10:00:22 GMT -5
And Adam and Eve for a long time have been the thing that's supposed to prove that they always knew what they were doing.
I really do think they've had the mythology of the Island worked out from the get go. After all, we've been seeing Egyptian stuff for a good, long time. Just never pointing at anything specifically.
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Post by markedman on Jul 19, 2009 14:17:01 GMT -5
Other things:
the US military knife they found in season two which dated from the '50s
the Latin writing on the hatch door map
season two - Marvin candle with the artificial arm.
Season 1 dharma shark season 3 zoological station
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Post by lost518 on Jul 22, 2009 14:41:55 GMT -5
Somethings that I picked up on:
In the episode where Charlies is strung up in the tree by Ethan. When its raining and Jack hears the screaming and Kate tells him to slow down. Why does Jack say I am not going to let you do this again? Then he takes off up the muddy hill only to fall and then Ethan beats him up.
And when Sayid is caught and tied up by Rousseau why does he say that Nadia is dead?
One thing that I found very interesting is that in Man Behind the Iron Curtain when Ben and Locke are walking to the D.I. pit. Ben admits that some of the things that he says are simply not true and Locke asks him what and Ben says he lied about being born on the island. But what is so crazy is that this conversation happened with the big reveal or we thought of Jacob. I love it because we now know that Ben never heard or spoke to Jacob. Love it.
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Post by michael kirschner on Jul 22, 2009 19:07:08 GMT -5
Somethings that I picked up on:
Why does Jack say I am not going to let you do this again?
[glow=red,2,300]He doesen't want Ethan to kidnap anyone again[/glow]
And when Sayid is caught and tied up by Rousseau why does he say that Nadia is dead?
[glow=red,2,300]He has given up hope on ever finding Nadia again, especially since he is on a deserted island that he may never get off; he also has found a new person whom he loves, Shannon, whom he promises later that he will never leaver her even if he does get off the island, this would be a time to go searching for Nadia again, but he has made a promise that he will never leave Shannon. I hope that helps explain whay Sayid said Nadia was dead as opposed to the simple explanation that he was just lying to a mysterious person who may be a bad person. [/glow]
One thing that I found very interesting is that in Man Behind the Iron Curtain when Ben and Locke are walking to the D.I. pit. Ben admits that some of the things that he says are simply not true and Locke asks him what and Ben says he lied about being born on the island. But what is so crazy is that this conversation happened with the big reveal or we thought of Jacob. I love it because we now know that Ben never heard or spoke to Jacob. Love it.[/quote]
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Post by jlyn1980 on Jul 23, 2009 21:34:27 GMT -5
Almost everything Ben has ever said has been a lie, remember in his own words, "I lie, that's what I do." lol, gotta love that guy.
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Post by tomfromminnesota on Aug 3, 2009 0:05:48 GMT -5
It could be that they've always known exactly what they wanted to say from the beginning and that everything the writers have created is really just a diversion, or postponement, of getting around to finally hinting and winking at what they really were eventually intending to say. In other words, the show may not be a story, but an allegory. I hope not, but haven't Damon and Carlton said that in season six they're finally going to get to tell the story they've always wanted to tell? I want to believe, but I wouldn't be too surprised if they didn't really try to save the world during the last 18 (?) episodes of the show.
One thing I've discovered in my partial rewatch is that Daniel tells Saiyid that she's never seen the others, but only heard them. We know that she met Ben when he stole Alex, though. Did she forget this? The man who stole her only begotten daughter? Or did the writers forget, or change their minds? Or did she somehow decide that Ben wasn't really an other? Or, perhaps, was she just being extraordinarily careful when answering Saiyid, hence lying, in order to prevent the possibility that she had violated Ben's warning for her never to be seen again by the others and to preserve the possibility that she might be able to see Alex again.
On a less cynical note: so far, I'm really liking season two more and more as I rewatch the show. It seems like there's a lot of downplaying of season two, but I love all the hatch stuff and the Henry Gale scenes. The interplay between Locke and Jack and Ben--it's just fantastic!
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Post by michael kirschner on Aug 3, 2009 6:49:45 GMT -5
Are you serious?
the US military knife they found in season two which dated from the '50s ANSWERED the Military was on the island in 1954 when they brough over "Jughead"
the Latin writing on the hatch door map
season two - Marvin candle with the artificial arm. ANSWERED Marvin Candle's AKA Pierre Chang's hand was crushed during the incident
Season 1 dharma shark season 3 zoological station
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Post by danthew on Aug 5, 2009 20:48:18 GMT -5
I'm not re-watching the show, as much as I would like to, but perhaps those who are could help satisfy my curiosity about something. My gut instinct after five years is that the show was much less planned out than Damon and Carlton seem to imply. I'm thinking something like: "Plane crashes on the island, weird things happen, eventually we find out its a battle between two greek gods, BIG FINISH!" and then everything else got made up one season at a time, or less. So, for those of you re-watching, is there anything that was pointed to more than one season ahead (discounting season cliff hangers to season opener tie-ins)? |
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Post by janrnanr on Aug 15, 2009 15:32:00 GMT -5
I noticed something when rewatching "The Constant" in Season 4. After the copter lands on the freighter and Desmond is freaking out, Kimee goes over to Saeed and asks him, "What's your name, MY FRIEND?" Kimee then calls Desmond "My Friend" when he locks Des in a cabin below deck. A co-winkydink?? Maybe, but I think not !!!
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Post by ddddyyyy on Aug 17, 2009 22:42:27 GMT -5
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Post by corrwill on Aug 23, 2009 16:33:36 GMT -5
A few things I noticed in "Tricia Tanaka is Dead"...When Kate and Sawyer are walking back to camp...Sawyer gets a "dart" in his foot...could this be the remains of a flaming arrow from the past? It sure looked like it was burnt. AND when Hugo and his dad see the face psychic she does say "War is coming" yeah we know she was fake but could that be a hint that Hurley will be important? One other thing I thought about was in "Enter 77" Patchy says the chess game was programed by 3 grand masters...and it cheats. Cheats as in loophole? could there be one more person on the island like Jacob and the man in black? Just a Theory  |
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Post by corrwill on Aug 24, 2009 1:20:14 GMT -5
Oooo another thing I wonder...In the season 3 episode "The Brig" Locke's dad says that his car crashed and he was picked up by the some medics and that one of them actually smiled when he put the IV in. And the next thing he knew he was on the island. My guess is that we might just see that scene next season. What if the man that smiled at him was Jacob. Ooooo smiley face |
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