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Post by Annie on Dec 21, 2005 11:18:48 GMT -5
I reviewed the episode when Walt's mom dies. Maybe everyone has already talked about all this on other boards, but I kind of like how we reinvent the wheel on this one. ;D
I tried to see the first example of Walt's powers. It seemed to me it was when Walt was doing homework and wanting attention. Bryan and Mom kept on talking and ignoring Walt. Walt says, "Bryan . . . Bryan . . . Bryan . . ." Then the same kind of bird that is in his book hits the window. His powers seem to activate at emotionally intense times for him.
The next time we see Walt drawing a wild animal to him is just after Michael burns the comic book. We see the page with the polar bear on fire. Walt runs off, angry, and then the polar bear attacks.
Walt burned down the raft, but did he use firestarters? Or just his will?
Then we see the Shannon interactions.
We know Bryan is afraid of Walt's powers. "Things happen when he is around." he delicately says to Michael when giving him custody. Makes one wonder what other kinds of things have happened.
It reminds me of Harry Potter before he knew he was a wizard. "Things" would happen when he was around, too, esp. if he was emotionally upset. Harry Potter, of course, was very, very special, being "the boy who lived." Walt is very special to the Dharma people because he is in the center of the bagua. I'm not saying Harry Potter influenced the writers per se, though.
Is anyone aware of other examples in books, movies, etc. of special children with special powers? It might give us some insight into Walt. I, for one, would like to know more about Walt.
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Post by xeo on Dec 22, 2005 12:27:03 GMT -5
maybe her mom is part of dharma
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Post by Annie on Dec 23, 2005 11:19:27 GMT -5
Do you mean Walt's mom? That would be interesting. The whole international law thing is just a cover OR maybe she represents Hanso. Bryan is clueless, but knows something funk-a-delic is going on with Walt. She took Walt far far away from Michael to prep Walt for handing over to the Dharma, because she knew Michael would never allow that. Then she gets sick and dies within a week of diagnosis. Maybe she changed her mind and didn't want them to have Walt afterall, so they killed her off. But the Dharma prevails and gets Walt to the island anyway. Hmmmm . . .
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Post by xeo on Dec 23, 2005 11:36:29 GMT -5
nice annie..i think she went to amsterdam or something..still maybe dharma was there too one of their headquarters or medical facilities. the letters from mullen came from switzerland another european country..
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Post by Annie on Dec 23, 2005 13:45:41 GMT -5
OR what if Bryan is the Dharma connection and he really hooked up with Susan because of Walt? Then he hands Walt over to Michael, knowing they will crash on the Island?
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Post by DashN on Dec 23, 2005 14:27:43 GMT -5
OR what if Bryan is the Dharma connection and he really hooked up with Susan because of Walt? Then he hands Walt over to Michael, knowing they will crash on the Island? We'll need more back story's about this.. I mean .. something had to happen between the episodes that made Bryan act the way he did... He looked like he had seen "the monster" up close or something.. maybe the monster has been there in another form than on the island. Or maybe Walt is the reason.. He had no hesitation leaving him to Michael.... like he's only thought in mind is .. take him.. just take him away!!.. Cheers! |
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Post by Annie on Dec 23, 2005 17:42:30 GMT -5
Agreed.
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Post by evilgus on Dec 28, 2005 21:41:06 GMT -5
Firestarter and Carrie by Stephen King both have kids with special abilities. In Firestarter the parents of the kid had both done government drugs testing when they were at university for extra cash, and about half the people on the trial went insane, and the other half became psychic and allsorts.
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Post by joss on Dec 29, 2005 20:48:04 GMT -5
I don't think Walt is attached to Dharma, but I think his "abilities" drew him and Michael to be on that fated flight, even if it wasn't conscious....
Walt "makes things happen" without trying (like the bird and the polar bear incidents) when he's unhappy or being ignored. Well, in the airport Walt overhears Michael complaining about having to take Walt. Walt doesn't want to go to Los Angeles and so...something happens to prevent it: the plane crash.
So....did Walt cause the plane crash? I think I theorized myself into a corner here....
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Post by Annie on Dec 30, 2005 12:17:06 GMT -5
Stephen King again, eh?
Walt's things that happen seem to be pretty immediate, though. He would have had to be stewing about not wanting to go to LA right before the plane broke up which he could have been. It certainly seems possible with Walt. Interesting.
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Post by Laura on Jan 3, 2006 16:20:58 GMT -5
Dean Koontz has a story about a boy who is part of a cloning thing and he causes all kind of damage with his mind. I think his dad ends up killing him. i can't think of the name, though.
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Post by Annie on Jan 3, 2006 16:23:02 GMT -5
Perhaps back to the "Evil Twin" reference again. Very interesting.
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Post by Laura on Jan 3, 2006 18:37:26 GMT -5
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Post by Laura on Jan 3, 2006 18:58:06 GMT -5
I found most of it! I had saved it as a text file when I had to go do something for dinner. here it is:
The Omen is another good story of the child who "makes things happen" and the first thing that came to mind was an old Twilight Zone about a child that Sterling even calls "the monster" who rules a town in terror. If anyone in the town doesn't like something he likes or doesn't do what he says, he turns them into things or makes them disappear.
King writes alot about preadolescents and sometimes older youth who either make things happen or who know things. Jake, in the gunsliner, certainly knows alot of things he should have now way of knowing (he has 'the touch' - same with Jack Sawyer (have to love that name now) in The Talisman.
But the list goes on. The little girl in Rose Red which king wrote the screenplay for, Danny, the little boy in The Shining also had the touch and could see other dimensions and he could interact with spirits. He was also able to cause certain things to happen, but not as much as the little girl in The FireStarter. Then there are the boys in Salem's Lot, the Devareau boy in Black House, Patrick in Insomnia who draws things. There was Thad as a boy in the Dark Half, and the name is on my tongue but refuses to leave my mind - the story of the boys who defended a retarded boy who had special powers and who came back in spirit form when they were adults and quarentined in the woods by the national guard. I know I'll remember this at 3 am this morning, but I can't get the title now. waaaah.
And here I am rewriting a post for this board while my own board on Stephen King and Lost - Doorway815.com - is waiting to open for me to write out starter posts.
But there are many stories with boys with special powers and they do not always use these powers for good. Or they are black and white - using them for both good and bad. Right now, I wouldn't trust Walt. He seems too much like the boy on the twilight zone.
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Post by Annie on Jan 4, 2006 11:43:52 GMT -5
Do you think Walt understands that he has special abilities yet, Laura? I'm not sure. His stepdad, Brian, didn't shed any light on that question either. All we know is Brian is afraid of Walt.
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arrggghh I just wrote a long post about lots of Stephen King's characters that had special powers as children and the board ate it up when I entered it!!!!!! 
