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Post by wiired on Nov 8, 2009 15:47:51 GMT -5
What are the "rules" or physics that dictate how to get on or find the island?
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Post by markedman on Nov 8, 2009 16:58:57 GMT -5
Some people think that time shifts depending on the angle and place of approach. If this is true, then I would add that if you are too time-shifted you can't get there, and if you are just slightly time shifted it will drive you mad.
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Post by wiired on Nov 8, 2009 18:09:53 GMT -5
I don't understand why Widmore couldn't get back to the island. He knew about Eloise Hawking and the Lamp-post station....
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Post by spinaltumor on Nov 8, 2009 20:38:36 GMT -5
For the O6 to get back, they had to set the right conditions, yes? So maybe Widmore couldn't get back even with the Lamp Post Station because he didn't have the right conditions to enter in on?
Or maybe for anyone to get to the Island they really have to be "called" by Jacob. Widmore simply hasn't been invited.
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Post by wiired on Nov 9, 2009 6:36:54 GMT -5
Then that would mean that Farday, Charlotte, Keamy etc were invited back.....
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Post by spinaltumor on Nov 9, 2009 10:57:46 GMT -5
Well you could say they helped the "progress" whatever that is.
Widmore sent Keamy and them to retrieve Ben from the Island, so Widmore either knows he can't go back for some reason we don't yet know, or that's not really his objective.
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Post by markedman on Nov 9, 2009 13:31:30 GMT -5
Don't forget that there was something "special" about the original lostaways, something that had to be recreated as closely as possible for them to get back a second time. I thought it was interesting that Danielle's group also included a pregnant woman and a musician.
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Post by spinaltumor on Nov 9, 2009 17:23:32 GMT -5
Oh yeah, I didn't think about Danielle's group also matching up in those ways. I wonder if one of them was late when they were shipping out!
'Course Desmond doesn't seem musically inclined, or...you know, pregnant.
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Post by wiired on Nov 9, 2009 20:26:31 GMT -5
And the Others?
How did the Others know what bearing to use on the sub? Did they have access to the Lamp-post station? Or was it some other way?
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Post by Uncle Igmar on Nov 10, 2009 6:51:25 GMT -5
Oh yeah, I didn't think about Danielle's group also matching up in those ways. I wonder if one of them was late when they were shipping out! 'Course Desmond doesn't seem musically inclined, or...you know, pregnant.
I have no idea how - I used to think that Widmore had some kind of technology that would find the island and he had it put in Desmond's boat so it would be drawn to the island - but I'm not all that sure now.
And I am sure that over the years (centuries?) people who have not been called by Jacob have landed there - like Desmond - Yemi and Goldie in the drug plane (that still needs an explanation) - maybe Adam and Eve. |
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Post by meeks82 on Nov 22, 2009 4:33:34 GMT -5
I have a feeling that Widmore's motivation might not be to get the island back. I think him leaving the island may have been part of Jacob's plan that he was in on from the beginning and that he is working for Jacob off the island in helping bring people to the island. It's possible that him and Eloise may be working together as well.
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Post by wiired on Jan 1, 2010 18:52:08 GMT -5
Also how did Anthony Cooper get on the island? The sub had already been blown up, right?
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Post by spinaltumor on Jan 3, 2010 18:34:41 GMT -5
Locke had only recently blown up the sub, though, at that point, right? So it's conceivable that they brought Cooper on the sub before that happened and had just been keeping him locked up until Locke arrived.
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Post by iamjacob on Jan 9, 2010 14:56:14 GMT -5
Im pretty sure that Anthony Cooper got back on the island by the submarine. I still think there is a different way to leave and return to the island. It would be too simple to just use a boat when you find out where the island is. Locke asked Richard how to get off the island and Richard said that it was privileged information. I don't think he was talking about using the FDW when he said this.
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Post by lostmonkey on Jan 9, 2010 19:53:56 GMT -5
I agree - I think there are a few ways. The FDW was not a "regular" way to get off of the island... as it took some breaking and entering to even GET to the FDW and it obviously hadn't been used in a while.  The sub was one way... I'm still trying to figure out some other possible way... |
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