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Post by thebeatlesremain on Aug 5, 2009 12:11:40 GMT -5
I've heard that many people speculate that the final season will be dealing with "alternate time lines." I've also heard that many people from season 1 could possibly be coming back to season 6. So, I read on E! online that producers also teased the alternate time line theory with the videos of Hurley working at Mr. Klucks, and Kate on America's Most Wanted. Regardless of these hints, the alternate time line theory still seems very vague and confusing to me, so I was wondering if anyone could explain this very popular theory to me
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Post by spinaltumor on Aug 5, 2009 13:29:38 GMT -5
Basically, in my mind it would be like instead of present time/flashback or present time/flash forward the 6th season could be present time/present time. One present time having had the plane crash...leading to where we left unLocke, Ben and everyone. And another present time where the plane didn't crash...showing us Hurley with Mr. Klucks, Kate on Most Wanted, etc.
The plot, I'd imagine, would involve combining the timelines back into one or just completely eliminating one of them as an option. How they'd do this I don't know. I'm imagining Desmond would be a large part of it, though.
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Post by thebeatlesremain on Aug 5, 2009 17:24:50 GMT -5
But what about this: if the plane didn't crash, Locke wouldn't end up to be taken over by Esau, so how could that time line work? And if the plane doesn't crash, what happens to Sun because she's with Ben and them, so does she just de-materialize?!
they couldn't have one timeline where jack is on the island, and flash to another time where he's not. that's just too confusing!!
ARGGGHHH!!!!
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Post by spinaltumor on Aug 5, 2009 18:45:36 GMT -5
For the timeline where they don't crash...yeah, that definitely raises some paradox-y situations. But I guess until we know for sure we can't really think about it.
But they wouldn't de-materialize. Sun would be on the Island only in the timeline where they DO crash. In the timeline where they don't, only Ben would be on the Island. Probably all grown up and well-adjusted or some crazy stuff like that.
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Post by danthew on Aug 5, 2009 20:34:52 GMT -5
I guess alternate timeline flashes would show what their lives would be like had the plane never crashed. In that case they would probably end up with the timelines converging and eventually they end up in the same final scene.
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Post by thebeatlesremain on Aug 6, 2009 7:23:39 GMT -5
As crazy as that sounds, I would probably be okay with that. I'm still deciding if i even care about what their lives would have been like hadn't they been in the crash.
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Post by danthew on Aug 6, 2009 8:18:00 GMT -5
Thinking about the stuff they had at comic con it sounds as if their lives pre-crash were different too, it could be because everything is just slightly different or because their time on the island dramatically affected eachothers lives pre-crash, or even Jacob intervention.
I just listened to Jay and Jack's comic con podcast, someone said that Kate's dad wasn't killed because he broke his routine, that sounds like Jacob gave him a "little push".
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Post by spinaltumor on Aug 6, 2009 8:41:10 GMT -5
Also, about Kate's dad...didn't she kill him at home? And not while he was doing any kind of work? Since then her mom could get insurance for the house and stuff too.... So Kate's method for killing her dad is different too.
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Post by thebeatlesremain on Aug 6, 2009 9:34:06 GMT -5
Maybe because Jacob is "dead" and Esau now took the reigns, he altered their lives pre-crash to be different then when they came in contact with Jacob (pre-crash) Does that make sense?
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Post by spinaltumor on Aug 6, 2009 13:59:41 GMT -5
Or when Jacob touched Kate as a kid he altered her life then in either timeline to make it different.
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Post by danthew on Aug 6, 2009 14:57:20 GMT -5
Yeah, I thought when watching those flashbacks that it wasn't part of this timeline but an alternate one. I figured that Sawyer would have stopped writing the letter when his pen ran out and then would have finished it later, but because Jacob gave him a pen he carried on writing and got caught by his uncle and made to promise not to finish it. Can't think of the others right now, I might post again later.
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Post by spinaltumor on Aug 6, 2009 15:38:18 GMT -5
Yeah, it looking like Jacob was helping Sawyer write the letter could have been made to be misleading.
Only thing that then doesn't fit is everything with his touching Locke after the fall and of course coming to Sayid and Hurley only after they crashed on the Island the first time.
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Post by danthew on Aug 6, 2009 16:29:11 GMT -5
Qoute from another thread: And when Sayid is caught and tied up by Rousseau why does he say that Nadia is dead? Maybe this has something to do with alternate timelines?
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Post by thebeatlesremain on Aug 6, 2009 21:15:08 GMT -5
Well he hadn't seen her since he was a kid, that's long enough to declare her legally dead.
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