Interesting e-mails

[Jack]

Hey Jay & Jack,

I have four crackpot theories that I GUARANTEE will definitely come true before the final season of Lost is over.

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1) The solution for the Losties getting home will be, what I like to call, Jack's dead father's magic shoes. Yes, the very shoes that are currently on the feet of the late John Locke. Jacob will tell Jack that the way to get home is for Jack to put on the shoes, click his heels three times while saying "There's no place like home." Jack will ask Jacob why he didn't just tell them this in the first place and Jacob will say because you wouldn't have believed me. Then Jack will punch Jacob in the face.

2) The smoke munster/MIB/Fake Locke will be revealed to be, none other than...................William Shatner, portrayed by , very special guest star, William Shatner. Why you ask? If you really, really think hard about it, this would explain everything. Or, come to think of it, it explains nothing. One of those, anyway.

3) The bad robot animation at the end of each episode will be replaced by a crudely drawn animation of Rose and Bernard walking past the screen wearing Dharma overalls, arguing about peanuts.

4) Last but not least...... (by the way, if you decide to read this on the podcast, it very important that Jay read this part.)

I believe that Jacob/MIB/Aaron are the same person. Jacob is what Aaron becomes if Claire raises him, MIB is what Aaron becomes if "another" raises him. Now the crackpot part: late in the season after a lot of heart wrenching events have taken place on the island, either dead Charlie or alternative universe Charlie, meets with Jacob. They shake hands, or maybe hug. Claire then says:

"CHARLIE!!!!! Get your hands off my full grown, time-shifting, destiny interfering, made incorporeal at end of last season BABY."

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So what do you guys think of my theories? I think they rock. I defy that even Crackpot Jack could come up with anything more unlikely or ridiculous.

Anyway, I love the podcast, and even if you don't read my awesome crackpot theories on air, I'll still think you are both super cool. But, I will question your commitment to excellence.



Caroline (I put the C in crackpot) from Alberta, Canada

P.S. My sister Gayle (another big fan of yours) wanted me to add her crackpot theory. She thinks that at some point in the show, Christian Shephard will cross paths with Man-in-Lock, and ask if he can have his shoes back.

[Jack]

Hey Jay and Jack,

Part of what makes Lost so enjoyable to me is listening to your podcast the next morning. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

This e-mail is kind of long and it's probably stuff somebody smarter than me has said before but I stumbled across some things on Wikipedia today and threw together a crackpot theory.

So I was wondering why they still haven't named the Man In Black's character. Why not? Maybe naming him will reveal too much or that his name will be instantly recognizable and will give away secrets they're not ready to unveil yet. So I started thinking about names that have a history built in.

I thought about names that would be instantly recognizable and the name Gabriel jumped into my head. Wasn't he an angel? I looked him up and didn't find much except that he is "the angel that shall blow the trumpet blast that initiates the end of time". But I saw the name of the archangel Michael and while perusing his info found this:

"In Greek folklore, Michael leads souls to Hades, and is the weigher of souls on Judgment Day. A related folk belief is that St Michael's face can only be seen by the dead and by those about to die. It is for this reason that some folk icons depict him without a face.

He is the Christian angel of death, carrying the souls of all the deceased to heaven, where they are weighed in his perfectly balanced scales (hence Michael is often depicted holding scales). At the hour of death, Michael descends and gives each soul the chance to redeem itself before passing."

And this:

"Church tradition relates that Saint Michael in the earliest ages caused a medicinal spring to spout at Chairotopa, near Colossae, where all the sick who bathed there, invoking the Blessed Trinity and St Michael, were cured"

And this:

"Michael then kept an eye on the first family, remaining vigilant even after the fall of Adam and Eve and their expulsion from the Garden of Eden".

So much of this seems to relate to things on Lost.

Lastly:

"In the Epistle of Jude St Michael disputes with the Devil over the body of Moses. In the Book of Revelation "...there was war in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. The great dragon was hurled down - that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him." Saint John describes Satan being thrown out of heaven three and a half years from the end of the age, "a time, times and half a time". Satan being thrown from heaven coincides with the "abomination that causes desolation" spoken of by Daniel. In Catholic teachings, Saint Michael will also triumph at the end times when he defeats Antichrist. The Book of Daniel (12:1) states: "At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise."

Could Jacob be the archangel Michael and the Man in Black Satan trying to return to heaven?

Last tidbit:

Michael commands the army of angels loyal to God against the rebel forces of Satan. This ocurred in the epic poem, Paradise LOST!

Anyways, if you actually read all this, I'm impressed. Keep up the great work!

John

[Jack]

Hey Jay and Jack

My names David, and im from Edmonton, Alberta. Im a big fan of your show…well other than the fact that you guys are Hurricanes fans.

Based on tuesdays episode, ive got what I think is a pretty interesting theory which im getting more and more convinced is how its going to end. Depending on how much energy I have this may get a little long, so I wont be terribly offended if you guys cut part of it out if you decide to air it on your show.

What bothered me the most about last season (which is why I was convinced that the bomb didn’t go off at the end of season 5) was that no one seemed to know what exactly caused this incident so as a result like Miles said they may have actually caused it by doing what they seemingly were meant to do. As a said before, I really don’t think the bomb went off, and if it did it mearly sealed back up the pocket of energy which “saved the world” and resulted in Radzinsky having to push the button out of his own guilt, and that a new bomb (or the current bomb that didn’t go off) was put in place to act as the fail-safe. As we know from last time the pocket was opened in a uncontrolled manner, like when Desmond turned the fail safe, some weird stuff happened like floating frogs and Desmond time traveling. But this time was different, Desmond had lived this life before and he knew what he had done in the past, and when he tried to changed it (by actually buying the ring) Ellie said if he did “god help us all” and I believe that Darlton alluded to that along with if the button wasn’t pressed without pulling the fail-safe; would result in the end of the world (or at least as we know it) because alternate timelines cant be created. So, you see if they are still alive than the bomb couldn’t have gone off (unless it happened before and was meant to).

So ultimately were brought back to the fact that they are currently seemingly living two timelines (which I stated before is impossible). But as we know from the first lighthouse episode, is that the island exhists on some sort of constant paradox causing everything to constantly shift through time and space, but also causes the island to be visible if certain things happen (like the pocket of energy being released (815), using some weird science (the US military, DHARMA, 316) or Jacob letting them on (the Black Rock). When Desmond was sent back in time (unlike all of the other times) he was in his past body as opposed to his current one, which leads me to believe that the same body cant exhist in the same timeline at the same time (except MIB and the real Locke). So whos to say that even though the island is technically in a certain year that in reality it isn’t in a very distant year or universe (that you can only exit/enter by moving through a certain bearing)?

So thats my theory on how the island and the losties exist at the present time (that probably has a bunch of holes in it). But, what I think regarding this “sideways” reality is that once the islanders die or fail the “job interview” for Jacobs job, he somehow has the power to send them off the island to the reality that they would have ended up in if they had not crashed the plane and the island had never existed in the first place. So, possibly the reason Desmond disappeared off of the new 815 around the time that the plane hit the turbulence was because he was on the plane initially but wasn’t the second after the plane was supposed to crash because he was the one who was selected to be Jacobs successor, Charlie (their son) was that weird little kid talking to the MIB and Desmond and Penny were “Adam and Eve”. Therefore causing a whole new cycle of lostacraziness to begin, but this time with Desmond, or (young) Charlie as Jacob and Claire as Danielle etc…

Well thats what I think, just so you know (and don’t think im plagiarizing), im likely going to post this on lostapedia tomorrow because I think this theory should be heard haha, but ill give you guys the sneek peek. Thanks and keep up the good work!



David

[Jack]

Jonathan

Hey Guys I Gotz A Crackpot theory For Ya


Okay so i strongly believe that there is a definite connection between possible candidates not crossed out in the cave and the Oceanic 6.

Everyone was listed except kate, (however littelton was crossed out, which im taking as aaron. but i'll get to that later) and everyone's asking where's kate, so this is what i'm thinking.

I believe James was supposed to stay on the helicopter and Kate was supposed to get off it.

So then the O6 would have been Shephard, Reyes, Kwon (Sun), Jarrah, Ford, And Littelton (Aaron)

Since Sawyer was left on the island he's good

Now for the O6, we all know that they had troubled lives once leaving the island

Jack - Addiction/Depression
Sayid - Nadia's Death/Bounty Hunting
Hurley - Back In The Looney Bin
Sun - Lost Jin/Teams up with Widmore
Aaron - Being raised by another.

Then there's Kate, who seemed to not have that bad of a time. She didn't go to jail. She got to keep Aaron, which she "needed." she got engaged to Jack, and they were happy for awhile until Jack went Emo and Ben went after Goober.

This leads me to believe that this was because she wasn't a candidate, so there was no point in her returning to the island. All the other characters were tormented to the point where going back to the island didn't sound like such a bad idea, and ultimately Kate chose to go back for her own reasons, and the fact that Jacob touched her in her life indicates she's needed for something, but obviously not candidacy.

Note this is for Jacob, not Anti-Jacob. So since AJ has taken Locke's, he was happy to cross out locke's name.

So after Locke is crossed out, you now have Ford, Kwon, Shephard, Jarrah & Reyes.

What Anti-Jacob fails to see is that the name Littelton is crossed out! Because of that and the fact that he has James following him now, he points out that James might become the new Jacob as stated in the episode.

Here's what I'm thinking.. Before Jacob died, he sort of had a notion his death was coming, so he planned for Aaron to become the candidate once he was gone. So he crossed out Littelton's name and put his plan into motion. So since he's been dead, he's come back as taller ghost Aaron A.K.A the blonde headed kid who tells AJ there are rules.

I'm thinking that AJ has totally overlooked the possibility of Aaron and so he feels he has the advantage by manipulating Sawyer.

So basically what I'm saying is: New Jacob = Taller Ghost Aaron, 42 Kwon = Sun, and that Anti-Jacob totally doesn't have the advantage he thinks he does.

Just a theory of mind; i hope it makes since.


Love the podcast, can't wait to listen to it

[Jack]

So... I have the crackiest theory ever!
I've noticed everyone calls Evangeline "Eve"... I've heard Jorge, Darlton, Michael Emerson...
So, why the hell did Evangeline put it on record that she doesn't want to be called "Eve"?

And the answer is........ She the Eve on the caves, and she was playing with our minds!

Yaeeeeee!

Just another thing: when Jacob said Hurley he would help someone arrive the island, I was sure he was going to tell him to record the numbers to be played over the years... Is this still possible?

Keep up the great work!

Nuno
Portugal

[Jack]

Jennifer


I know we've moved on to another episode, The Lighthouse, but I've got a question about The Substitute.

When Unlocke returns to Sawyer from chasing the "you know the rules" boy, Sawyer asks if he found the kid and Unlocke asks "what kid?" and acts like he doesn't know what he's talking about.

It struck me as significant, but I don't know why. My apologies if you've discussed it already. My husband seems to think Unlocke said that simply because he knows the kid wasn't really a kid (he's something in a kid's body), just like Unlocke isn't really Locke. If that's the case, why wouldn't he say "that's not a kid" like Claire did of Unlocke- and she followed that up with "that's my friend". Maybe that's not Unlocke's style, but he seems in the mood to answer an awful lot of Sawyer's questions (why not this one?)- admitting he's dead and not Locke, he's experienced human emotions before, he showed the cave with the list, so I think there's another explanation.

A few of my ideas on why Unlocke was playing dumb:

He could be trying to make Sawyer forget about the kid, but if so, it would be disappointing - Sawyer and Unlocke already had the exchange about the fact that Sawyer could see him, why play dumb now?

Maybe Unlocke didn't see the kid as a kid (maybe something scarier- though a kid with blood on his hands is pretty scary), but everyone else who can see him sees a kid

The Unlocke that comes back from going to find the kid is a different person or different somehow than the one we have been seeing and legitimately doesn't know "what kid" Sawyer's talking about

Unlocke knows Alpert was near - he asks Sawyer who he's talking to - and doesn't want Alpert to know about the vision of the kid for whatever reason- i.e. regardless of whether or not Alpert can see the kid, perhaps he knows what seeing the kid would mean and Unlocke doesn't want that to happen

Unlocke knows Alpert was near and since Sawyer wouldn't tell him who he's talking to, Unlocke also decides to play dumb and not answer his question


I sent this to Jen at the Transmission today and she seems to think the "what kid" was in a tone that says "we're not going to talk about it anymore, Sawyer". I didn't think that's the message Sawyer got- or was that an I want to smack you look?

I don't know what the policy is between podcasts and sending in the same question to you all, but regardless of whether you use it in the podcast I'd still like to know what you think if you have time.


Just wondering if you all had noticed this or thought anything of it.


Jennifer

[Jack]

Corry



Hey guys,



I can’t believe I have gone this entire show and never found your podcast. Although I admit, I haven’t been a big podcast listener at all until just within the last year, so justified?



Anyways, had some theories for you, I’ve bullet pointed them for your convenience:



· In the Substitute, Locke mentions to Sawyer that Jacob is the protector and says that he can’t be protecting the island because it’s just an island. I think he is a protector of the rest of the world from what is on the island. Which leads me to…

· I think this has been hashed out a little bit, but the island, once a research facility is now a prison to keep what was created/discovered on the island by Dharma contained. Which leads me to…

· Man in black is responsible for or IS the infection, he’s stuck there because of the role of the protector or Jacob, this infection was something that was created or discovered by accident by Dharma. What role does the black smoke/Unlocke play?

· Darlton said on Kimmel Live, the night of the season six premiere that Locke is the smoke monster but NOT the Man In Black. While confusing, this makes sense to me in the sense that Russo called the smoke a security system. I think the smoke monster was once a person (as mentioned by Locke) who is now in charge of keeping Jacob informed as to the goings on of the island. But he too wants to go home and Man In Black has made a deal with him to help him get off the island if he can help him kill Jacob (done) and prevent him from finding a replacement (in the process).

· I think in the same way that Jacob was a real person who could be killed, Man In Black is also a real person who is off hiding somewhere and we will see him before it’s all over

· Alternate universes, bomb worked, it did alter time and sank the island, which I believe is why we have the “fixed” timeline we have. The reason we have two separate timelines is because the Island flashed through time at the same time the bomb went off. So while it did reset everything, it also split everything down the middle.

· I think that when a person dies in either timeline, their consciences reconnect. Locke never had the opportunity to experience this because he died off the island and wasn’t around during the flash as Juliet set off the bomb. So he only exists in the fixed one.

· I am curious to see how Jacob and Man In Black fit into flash sideways, because they should technically be there as well.



I have more but this is getting long… Even if you don’t read any on the show, let me know what you think.



Thanks guys, keep up the good work

[Jack]

Just emailing to let you guys know all your hard work is very very very much appreciated. Watching your vidcast for "sunset on the beach" was great fun and i'm sure it took a lot of work (mostly on Jay's part ) to produce it all. I'm gonna miss you guys once this is all over...

Anyway! My theory... and i have a feeling this will make Jack happy.

Rose IS indeed in cahoots with the "enemy". Just look at Sayid. Upon death, his body was infected and he was able to be "claimed" by MIL. Saying that he is also completely healed. I think that John Locke was dead all along and had been claimed by smokey right from the beginning. Why this bond heals them i don't know. However, smokey wasn't yet able to utilize John's body until the whole Ajira airlines scenario.

So back to Rose. According to my theory, she too can be claimed by good old Flocke. Who knows. Maybe she's been whispering sweet nothings into his ear all this time...

But seriously. I think that anyone who has died is available for MIL to possess. But the conditions have to be just right... God knows what the conditions are but just think of Mikhael! How many times did that guy come back to life? Maybe it wasn't a resurrection... maybe it was a Locke type possession. Let me know what you think guys. All th best and i hope to hear from you soon!

Corey - from East London.

[Jack]

Hi Jay and Jack,

Okay, so after being pretty convinced that the Losties' lives in the alternate timeline are better because Jacob wasn't able to interfere in them, I'm beginning to doubt that this is true. When I shared this theory with my wife she raised a really interesting counter-argument: in the original timeline, the MIB might also have been interfering in their lives. Now, it seems pretty clear that the MIB is stuck on the island, so how could he have interfered in their lives, you ask? Well, it does seem that he has representatives or emissaries off the island. For example, Charles Widmore may be in league with the MIB, as evidenced by the fact that Bram warned Miles not to accept the job Widmore had offered him because he'd be playing for the wrong side.

So here's my new theory: the reason the Losties lives were all so screwed up wasn't because of Jacob's interference, it was because of MIB's interference (through Widmore and other off-island servants). I believe the MIB knew that they were the last group of Jacob's possible candidates and that he has been trying to make them irredeemably "broken" and to ruin them as candidates. And I believe that Jacob's appearances in their lives were not to manipulate them into coming to the island, but to work against what the MIB was trying to do to them; e.g. saving Sayid from being killed by Widmore's men when Nadia was killed, bringing Locke back to life after getting pushed out the window, encouraging Kate to "be good."

I have two major pieces of evidence for this theory:

1. We have several confirmed instances where Widmore or people who work for him have interfered in their lives. Abaddon (who works for Widmore) suggested the Walkabout to Locke as a spiritual experience, Abaddon tried to get Hurley to come with him to a "new facility", Widmore's men hit and killed Nadia, Widmore encouraged Locke to bring everyone back to the island, Widmore seemed to be ultimately responsible for both Faraday and Desmond coming to the island, etc. So we know for certain that Jacob isn't the only one who's been influencing their lives.

2. This is the big one: In the alternate timeline, all of the candidates are on flight 815 at the right place at the right time. So even without Jacob's influence, they all still would have been on that plane when Desmond failed to push the button and the plane was brought down. So Jacob didn't do anything to bring them to the island... they would have come regardless. Which leads me to conclude that he wasn't interfering in their lives to bring them to the island, it was for some other reason. And I think that reason was to reverse the damage that MIB was trying to do to them.

That's my theory and I'm sticking to it!

Chad from Washington

[Jack]

hey, saw "What Kate Does" last night (ugh, New Zealand--no good broadband, no up-to-date episodes! hell, we're on season 2 of Dexter...had no idea there were FOUR of them!)

I didn't even get what the 'your sister' comment meant until you guys said Claire on the podcast. how thick am I!! Nor did I think she was evil, despite the cabin scene, and the fact that she just took out two of Jacob's temple people.

also, d'ya think the creators came up with the characteristics of the smoke monster from the rattlesnake? when a character in the season 6 pilot mentioned the 'ticker-ticker-ticker' sound it makes, it made me think of that 'shicker-shicker' rattle sound. ...and smokey does slither along all lengthy and limbless... maybe there's some serpent-in-the-garden-of-Eden tie in with the Jacob/Esau Bible reference (don't some modern Christians say nuts like 'Satan appear in many forms', and 'the voice of Satan sounds reasonable', and all that other nuts?)

Obviously I haven't seen the next ep yet, but the trailer suggested man-in-locke/smokey/(eden-serpent?) "tempting" Sawyer?!!

(if you reply, feel free to include spoilers about that seemingly Sawyer/man-in-Locke centric episode if any of this seems relevant, I won't open the email until after I've seen that ep. would be rude of me to talk about old stuff and expect you to bite your tongue.)

also, d'ya think the 'not alternate reality' angle will be a way to bring a happy ending for Sawyer...we haven't seen Juliet in the flash-sideways, yet, and if Ethan is alive and well there, so must Juliet be. and if there's some sort of convergence (like Kate having some sense about 'Aaron') maybe Juliet will regain the dead-Juliet's memories of Sawyer so they can end up in love as before.

and what the hell was that '[Sayyid] has to take [the pill] willingly' nuts? when they said it was poison I thought, ok, good, that wasn't some sort of 'have faith in the placebo' thing, so, is this harking back to the Ben killing Jacob thing--that there seems to be a rule against 'players' on the island killing people? (good reason for smokey to turn Claire and try to turn Sayyid evil. also a good reason for the temple leader to be badass at non-lethal martial arts and otherwise being a rather stoic figure like Jacob and Richard, never raising a hand). Also, if Jacob brought the Black Rock to the island, and Esau brought Dharma*, is this why Richard working for Jacob had Ben gas his father? does the whole 'others' group taking part in Dharmaville genocide undermine this 'no killing' idea, or do all those others count as non-islandies, free to kill, just like Claire and Ben and whoever else (and Richard just supervises these sorts of things)? Did Esau bring (or manifest the appearance of) Locke's father to the island? and is there some smoke-monster sickness reason why they (Ben, and Richard helping with info on Sawyer) wanted him dead? is that why he was such an not a very nice person to Locke even when he had a knife to his throat, he wasn't himself?

*then Jacob brought Oceanic, then Esau brought the freighter, then Jacob brought Ajira... maybe Esau brought the freighter as pretext to pretend-to-speak-for-Jacob in the cabin telling Locke to move the island...necessary only because of the threat of the freighter, a threat necessary only to give Esau access to the guise of being Locke. Maybe they keep bringing people to the island because they need them as pawns. But why would Jacob, the good guy, want or need to bring people to the island, is it just because Esau will keep doing bad things and if Jacob doesn't find some good-hearted people to help him, Esau will simply win? Hopefully the writers give us some resolution here, about why Jacob is willing to ruin people's normal lives seemingly in order to get them to help thwart Esau's efforts, and keep him powerless and confined to the island--to keep him from 'going home' (ruining the rest of the world?)

oh, and Richard seems to be nice (didn't he help Alana with something? and he helped Locke with his father problem on the island, and helped Ben with his father problem), maybe the man-in-Locke "good to see you out of your chains" thing is a reference to the Greek myth of Prometheus, who was chained to a mountain to suffer every day as punishment for helping mankind by giving them fire. in the Lost context, maybe Richard was punished by Esau for interfering in his godly struggles with Jacob in the past, hence the insincere 'out of your chains' comment before knocking him out and carrying him off (Wiki says "Hesiod introduces Prometheus as a lowly challenger to Zeus' omniscience and omnipotence"--a lowly rival to Esau/man-in-Locke, unlike his 'equal' Jacob?). Also, part of Prometheus' punishment was having his liver renew each day only to be eaten out by an eagle all over again...maybe this parallels Richard's undying youth? (or maybe Esau was just content to chain him up, because Jacob had rewarded him with immortality/youth, and it would suck to be chained up forever and never die...).



p.p.s.
on podcast 5.3, Jack was like 'why wouldn't Kate know where the plane [with Jin's wife on it] landed?'. I'm sure someone has since reminded you guys about the 'flash' where some vanished through time and others landed in the present on the island.
but, in any case, where did it land, wasn't their a strip being built near Dharmaville or sumn? so, would Kate later (after that scene with Jin) find it when she went and found Sawyer?






cheers guys.


Tyler.

[Jack]

It's Carol-Ann from Toronto.

I've been thinking about the idea of Jacob and the smoke monster actually being the same entity, and I agree! Here's some supporting evidence:

1. If you look back at all the smoke monster activity on the island, it's not consistently bad. He does some unexplained things that might be actually influenced from the Jacob side.
- Why does he turn into Yemi and try to convince Eko to ask for forgiveness and then kill him when he won't? Why not just kill him in the first place?
- Why is he as Christian Shepherd leading Jack into the woods to find the caves and fresh water?
- Did he turn into Christian Shepherd and appear to Michael on the freighter, telling him kindly that it's okay to go now?
- Did he help Ben, Locke and others escape when Keamie and the mercenaries were attacking after Alex was killed?

2. The Others have a connection to the smoke monster, as well as to Jacob
- Ben can summon the smoke monster from his house - why?
- according to Lostpedia, the hieroglyphs on the door to the hidden room where the smoke monster can be summoned say "to summon protection"

2. Locke sees two different things in the smoke monster
- Locke said he looked into the eye of this island and what he saw was beautiful
- Later he saw the smoke monster again, took a step towards it, but then turned and ran in a panic, and the smoke monster tried to pull him down a hole

3. The smoke monster has been seen split apart
- example: according to Lostpedia, when Juliet and Kate were handcuffed and running from the smoke monster, Juliet activated the fence, and the smoke monster crashed into it, splitting into three parts
- so could the smoke monster be Jacob on the beach and also the man in black?

4. Maybe he can't kill Jacob because he can't commit suicide or the "release" won't happen

[Jack]

jsawyer




I have a theory on how Lost will end. You probably
do too and it's probably better than mine. Having remained spoiler
free so far this season, this theory is a complete shot in the dark and
no doubt completely wrong. In fact, one week from now, I'll probably
have a new one. But a scene at the beginning of the most recent
episode, "Lighthouse", pushed one possibility into clarity.

There have been some truly great episodes during Lost's run; the
pilot episode and The Constant leap to mind. The season finale of
Season 3 also stands out, mainly for the mindblow in the finale scene
and the realization that what we thought were flashbacks in that
episode were actually flashforwards.

So I'm suspicious about something similar going on this season.
We're seeing glimpses into an alternate universe that was created when
the bomb went off. Something's not right though. People seem to
recognize each other and Claire "remembers" the name of her unborn
son. The kicker was Jack's surprise at finding an appendix scar he
didn't remember having. Clearly some things that happened on the
island seem to have been carried to this alternate dimension. This
defies all logic. Not that logic is necessary on Lost. But I smell a
rat.

What is the purpose of the flashes besides curious looks into what
would have happened had flight 815 not crashed? Would we have enjoyed
episodes about Gilligan and the Skipper's lives if they hadn't gone on
the 3 hour tour? Probably not. The flashes into an alternate universe
are interesting but how invested are we in those characters when the
ones we really care about are still on the island? Unless they are
the same characters, but in different times, not different realities.

I've also been wondering how the creators would want to end a show
like this, a show that will go down as one of the best of all time,
with a passionate, dedicated fan base. Do we want a bloody war with
casualties on both sides, exciting cliff-hanging drama with real loss
occurring in heart breaking deaths? You bet we do. Do we hope these
characters we've grown to love have happy endings, at least some of
them? Yes, we want that too. But how could that be possible
with even the survivors mourning the loss of their friends? I'm not
worried. I'm confident these writers will pull it off.

Maybe, just maybe, this is how: what we think is a flash into an alternate universe is a flashforward.

The adventures on the island will continue, the conflict between
Jacob, Man In Black and whoever else we've yet to see reaching a
crescendo. Sometime near the end, when the conflict has been resolved
after the drama we're craving, someone will somehow cause an
"incident", sending these characters back to the plane scene we saw in
the Season 6 premiere. They will be returned to their lives on an
Earth where an atomic bomb exploded in 1977 and the butterfly effects
from that are still being felt. They won't remember their experiences
on the island aside from an occasional deja-vu but they will carry with
them various remnants like a child's name, an appendix scar. Their
basic character will also have been affected from their time on the
island. Jack, freed from the need to always fix things and live up to
his father's unrealistic expectations, will be able to connect with his
own son in ways his father never could with him. Locke will accept his
handicap and instead of hoping for a miracle, will happily continue his
life with Helen.

The final hours of Lost will include outrageous, heart-rending loss
as characters we love appear to be dropping like flies. It will then
be revealed that they are being sent (don't ask me how!) back to the
plane, the events of the past six season not erased, but now integral
parts of their pasts, although they themselves don't realize it. We
will be treated in the waning moments of the show to a montage sure to
wring tears from all of us, showing each of our friends back in the
real world, changed by the experiences we spent six years of our lives
watching, and moving on.

We'll remember the excitement of those final hours but be left with a warm feeling for the characters and the show itself.

If you've managed to read all this, you've probably found several
holes in my theory already. How did Jack's Mom remember an appendix
surgery when Jack and Juliet did it on the island. For that, I've got
nothing. Maybe Jacob, whose abilities we still don't fully understand,
will course correct the two realities? Like I said, I've got nothing.

The trouble with theorizing about Lost is that the next episode can blow it all up. We'll see what we'll see.

Until next time....

[Jack]

Hey Jay and Jack!
Okay so, two of my friends proposed the idea after the episode "The Lighthouse," that Desmond is the number 108 and the chosen one to replace Jacob. Since then I have put a lot of Lost research into this and I am now almost certain of it. (But not really, because one is NEVER certain about Lost) Jacob mentioned that 108 is coming and needs help finding the island. Last we knew, Desmond had been sailing all over with Penny and Charlie Jr (well aside from his hospital trip). It's highly possible that Desmond is still sailing around with his family. This theory would also reconfirm Eloise Hawking's statement that the island isn't through with him yet...as you mentioned in the crackpot theory of the week.

Now many have speculated that Charles Widmore is somehow in cahoots with the smoke monster....which by the way, Why haven't we heard anything from him yet this season? Maybe the writers have something to hide and his involvement for the island will be revealed later this season.
Charles Widmore was originally an "Other" which would make him a follower of Jacob (or at one point was), but he has since been banished by Ben, who was running things for Jacob at the time. Widmore's banishment was on the basis that he "broke the rules." Widmore has tried for 20 years since his banishment to find the island and has spent a lot of money doing so. He himself could not find the island, but his hired men could...adding to the speculation that he was more than just told to leave. Widmore hired Keamy to kill Ben and everyone on the island. In "Sundown," Sayid, I believe, implied that everyone on the island would die...unless they joined the smoke monster's army. I see similarities between Widmore and the smoke monster's desire for justice....the only difference is that the smoke monster wants off and Widmore wants on. Widmore wanted everyone on the island dead and the smoke monster was very annoyed by Jacob's insistence on wasting the lives of people and bringing them to the island.

If these things are the case, Widmore is in cahoots with the smoke monster and/or just hates Jacob, and Desmond is the replacement for Jacob, it would explain why Widmore hates Desmond so much and considers him dishonorable for his daughter. It would also explain why Widmore went to such great lengths to get in touch with Locke and get him on his side after Locke left the island. Almost as if Widmore himself knew the destiny of Locke (or Locke's body) and that it would lead to the death of Jacob and triumph of the smoke monster.

AND why wasn't Ben able to kill Widmore when they were both off of the island? When Ben went to visit Widmore, off of the island, Ben mentioned "We both know I can't do that" when Widmore asked if Ben was there to kill him. Ben says it as if it's against the rules, very much like the rules of Jacob vs the Smoke Monster.

Sorry for that ridiculously long spiel
but thanks for listening!
and thanks for the great show!

Vicki from Kansas City

[Jack]

ey Jay and Jack I posted this on ABC Lost Theories.. thought you guys might be interested.


We can assume from what we have seen so far is that everyone has a double of themselves living in an Alt universe. There have been ample references to Alice in Wonderland and Through the Looking-Glass. Just lostpedia Alice in Wonderland and you will see how many references there are. One very interesting piece of information about Lewis Carroll is that he was a leading mathematician of his era. He had a fascination with number 42 and with numerology and esotericism. Part of esotericism is a “conviction that nature is a living entity, the need for mediating elements (such as symbols or visions) in order to access spiritual knowledge, and a sense of personal transmutation when arriving at this knowledge.”

The island is the body of God (Mother Nature (RED)) and is slowly being killed by science. (notice that there are more birds chirping and more wildlife when they flash back in time as opposed to the current timeline) MIB and Jacob are both trying to preserve the island. Jacob for selfish reasons of utilizing its power and MIB as a devotion to the island itself.

The real loophole is SCIENCE. The ability to utilize time travel and try to alter the outcome of events. This allows MIB to find a way to create a supposed loophole by using revived Ben (when shot as a kid) to kill Jacob. I think MIB is confused in the very extravagant and detailed plan he has. In the Bible people thought they were killing the correct person and letting Barabbas free, but really they were killing God himself.

Another source of confusion in the Bible was that people thought that the waters of Bathesda were always thought to be a healing pool of God but really it was a fallen angel that stirred the waters so that people could be healed. Can mirror The Others perception of what should have happened to Sayid, Ben (maybe Claire)?

Going back to the mirrored universe. Everyone has a light and dark side to them. One is in one universe and the other is in the alt. They are not exclusively all light in one and all dark in the other but the clue as to which one we are seeing is what eye is focused on when we see a close up. The left (light) or the right (dark). Simply that there is a war between these two sides. We can see that when people deal with their greatest fears on the island they die and in most cases will allow the alt to live on. We have seen cross over between these two universes with Desmond, Boone, Charlotte and Juliet (as well as others).

Smokey can be many people at the same time. We saw that when Eko saw 3 people at once in the jungle when the machete (which Eko drops on the ground and is now the one that MIB Locke carries) is thrown at him. The smoke monster can take on the form of anything that has been on the island or has been in peoples thoughts. from dinosaurs to childhood friends. It can also break itself into ‘scouts’ We see little bits going through the jungle at times. When we first saw the trees moving in the jungle at the beginning of the first season, we all thought it might be a dinosaur. Well I think smokey was in the form of a dinosaur (also a Hurleybird at one point). They were testing Sayid with electrical currents and iron filings to see if electricity had a similar effect on him as it did on the Smoke monster.

Sorry I didn’t keep to a single thought but I feel I could go on and on with this direction of thinking. Please add to this and see if we can tie things together even more. Jack picks up the rabbit for his moms house and there lies the key. Everything from alt universes to rabbits to white and black theme to time differences to the entire story being about a chess game has built the foundation for what Lost is ultimately about.

Some Additional thoughts:

As for Adam in the cave??? i think Adam might be Richard Alpert. I will probably be proven wrong on this in a split second when we see him on the Black Rock but I think they might be leading us to think that he was on the Black Rock when he wasn’t.

MIBs mission is to definitely steer people from helping Jacob and get their name erased from list. Getting their names crossed off mirrors the book of life in revelation where everyone’s name is written in the book of life until there comes a time when they ULTIMATELY REJECT God and get their names blotted (crossed) out.

Jack saw his past in the lighthouse during a significant time when Jacob visited Jack or his parents. Maybe to deliver something or as a guest. Anyways, he touched them as he did Jin and Sun at their wedding (the temple building in the mirrors), Sawyer at his parents funeral (the church in the mirrors) and now Jacks childhood home. Jacob doesn’t care that the lighthouse is broken because he is down to the last candidates which are on the island anyways.

The sickness is people who have been forced to die before their time. They are almost in a catatonic state and have a greater connection with the Alt timeline then others which leads to great confusion. The reason for some people not being able to die is well explained in conversations between Miles and Hurley.

Some more additional thoughts:


I should clarify what I meant by "Jacob for selfish reasons of utilizing its power and MIB as a devotion to the island itself." I believe Jacob is using the island for it's special power (allow him to have eternal life) MIB is devoted to the island and draws strength from the island (similar to if you could separate the Holy Spirit from God the father) MIB sees the destruction of the island is imminent and wants to leave, taking as many as possible 'Jacob' recruits as he can.


I forgot to mention that the reason fake Locke (MIB) might have said to Richard that he was previously in chains was because fake Locke regards the freedom of choice as a breaking free from chains. He might look at the time before Adam and Eves fall as being shackled (not having the knowledge of good and evil)


BruthaBrother comment - In regards to the fallen angel stirring the waters of bathesda...did anyone notice Jacob was literally stirring the muddy waters at the temple with a stick when Hurley approached him asking where the kitchen area was?

[Jack]

Hey guys I've cracked the LOST secret! Here it is:

Jacob wanted to bring people to the island, DWG didn't...probably because he wants to keep the power of the island a secret and to himself.

If you die ON the island, you don't actually die, you go to the alternate timeline with no recollection that the island ever existed—In other words your plane doesn't crash, it lands in LAX like it was supposed to just like in the alternate reality.

That's why it was so important to DWG that the the Oceanic Six return to the island, so they can die and go to the alternate reality and have no recollection of the island's existence.

The reason for the subtle differences in the new reality is that DWG has the power to alter your new reality. So when he promises Clair that she'll see her baby again, he delivers because when she dies, in her new reality, she does get to keep Aaron. He promises Sayid that he'll see Nadia again and he does. I bet you that he'll promises Hurley a luckier life, Ben a different life and Locke his girlfriend back. We may even see Michael and Walt again in this alternate reality.

The people who's lives don't change in the alternate reality (ie: Kate, Jack, Jin, Sun) are the characters who likely wouldn't accept a deal with DWG hence their lives remain essentially unchanged. Jack's father is still dead, Kate is still on the run, Jin is still mixed up in organized crime and Sun is still living in fear of Jin. I bet we'll find out that Sawyer makes a deal with DWG too and in HIS new reality he'll hook up with Juliet again.

The only thing that will throw a wrench into DWG's plan is the fact that the oceanic 6 weren't the only ones who left the island. Desmond and Aaron left and didn't come back. So as we've known all along, Desmond and Aaron are the keys here and will probably play a major role in making sure DWG doesn't succeed. I think we may find out that the only baby to have been born on the island after the crash carries Jacob's soul or spirit in him and Aaron will become the new Jacob charged with keeping DWG in check on the island. So the guy who warns Clair not to take Jacob to LA in season one was probably pssessed by DWG knowing that Aaron would be his only REAL foil.\

There you have it, that's my theory and I'm sticking to it.

Thanks guys, love your podcast!

Al from Holland Landing, Ontario, Canada