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Post by hotpocketninja on Apr 4, 2009 20:55:12 GMT -5
Ok so I was rewatching the last episode and I noticed that when Kate was talking to Claire's mom she said tha they looked everywhere for Claire when she dissapeared. No they didn't! They pretty much just said oh well she's gone and took her baby. I also hate Kate for saying that Claire left Aaron. I don't really think Claire was in her right mind when she left with Christian so you can't really blame her. I've always been a supporter of Claire and I can't wait to see her storyline, and I thought Kate was very rude in telling Claire's mom these lies. Anyone agree?
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Post by gobsmacked on Apr 4, 2009 20:56:47 GMT -5
I agree. Plus, Kate was not there when Claire left so she doesn't really know what went on. She's just taking Sawyer's word. And, no, Kate never looked for Claire. Sawyer and Miles did, but only for a day.
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Post by monsterjester on Apr 4, 2009 21:00:25 GMT -5
I would defend Kate's cliff's notes version of events to Claire's mom. Clearly she wasn't going to go into every detail of every event that led to her taking care of Aaron, since nobody on the show ever puts a voice to what the heck is going on (except Hurley). I don't remember a time when Kate would have had time to go in search of Claire.
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Post by anotheruser on Apr 4, 2009 21:14:47 GMT -5
I would defend Kate's cliff's notes version of events to Claire's mom. Clearly she wasn't going to go into every detail of every event that led to her taking care of Aaron, since nobody on the show ever puts a voice to what the heck is going on (except Hurley). I don't remember a time when Kate would have had time to go in search of Claire. Good point about Kate not having time to look. But, her short version of what happened was not fair. She portrayed Claire as being a bad mother which was not true.
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Post by hotpocketninja on Apr 4, 2009 21:34:00 GMT -5
I would defend Kate's cliff's notes version of events to Claire's mom. Clearly she wasn't going to go into every detail of every event that led to her taking care of Aaron, since nobody on the show ever puts a voice to what the heck is going on (except Hurley). I don't remember a time when Kate would have had time to go in search of Claire. Good point about Kate not having time to look. But, her short version of what happened was not fair. She portrayed Claire as being a bad mother which was not true. yes this was the point I was trying to make, Kate said "Claire left Aaron behind so I started taking care of him". That is a flat out lie even though Kate doesn't know the full story I don't think she would think of Claire as a person that would do that. I think she's lieing to herself, saying that Claire was a bad mom for leaving Aaron and that she,Kate, should have Aaron. Just my thought.
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Post by monsterjester on Apr 4, 2009 22:46:20 GMT -5
Um... Claire DID leave Aaron sitting in the middle of the jungle. True Kate doesn't know the full story, neither do we, but that's why she went back, right? To find Claire and find out what happened to her? I agree that Kate has been partially motivated by selfishness, but who isn't? I mean, what should she have told Claire's mom? That "she was a great mom, but I wanted the kid so I snatched him when she wasn't looking and brought him to the mainland to raise as my own"? That would be a plain old lie. Saying Claire left Aaron behind may sound harsh, but has the merit of being true. And Kate's determination to return with the express purpose of finding Claire should somewhat comfort Claire's mom to Claire's decency as a parent and a person... shouldn't it?
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Post by gobsmacked on Apr 4, 2009 23:23:30 GMT -5
She could have said that Claire really loved Aaron and that they were inseparable most of the time. Then Claire got lost and no ones knows what happened.
That would be the truth as well.
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Post by monsterjester on Apr 5, 2009 0:27:04 GMT -5
She could have said lots of stuff.
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Post by aquaboy1976 on Apr 5, 2009 11:47:09 GMT -5
I think she did the best she could. I'm sure if you put yourselves in her shoes and you had to confront someone with such huge news/information, it wouldn't be exactly easy to be as thorough and exact as you would want it to be. I would be pretty nervous if I were in Kate's shoes for that moment!
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Post by yosemitechris on Apr 5, 2009 11:47:33 GMT -5
she just said that,so she would take arron.and she could go back to the island. you'll say anything when you want something bad.
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Post by Uncle Igmar on Apr 5, 2009 13:26:26 GMT -5
I would defend Kate's cliff's notes version of events to Claire's mom. Clearly she wasn't going to go into every detail of every event that led to her taking care of Aaron, since nobody on the show ever puts a voice to what the heck is going on (except Hurley). I don't remember a time when Kate would have had time to go in search of Claire. Good point about Kate not having time to look. But, her short version of what happened was not fair. She portrayed Claire as being a bad mother which was not true. Kate could have searched that island from top to bottom and she wouldn;t have found Claire. I am in the "Claire is Dead" camp. There's no way they (Claire and Christian) could take a living baby with them.
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Post by yosemitechris on Apr 5, 2009 13:33:38 GMT -5
she might not be daed, just smokeyed, smokey might of got to her.
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Post by Uncle Igmar on Apr 5, 2009 17:58:30 GMT -5
I personally think you have to be dead before being "smokeyed" as you say and I think Claire finally died when she Sawyer and Kate went to sleep that night. The reason she's not quite with it in Jacob's cabin is because she isn't totally back in this world - take that as you will
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Post by thebeatlesremain on Apr 5, 2009 18:00:00 GMT -5
Good point about Kate not having time to look. But, her short version of what happened was not fair. She portrayed Claire as being a bad mother which was not true. Kate could have searched that island from top to bottom and she wouldn;t have found Claire. I am in the "Claire is Dead" camp. There's no way they (Claire and Christian) could take a living baby with them. I'm with you in that camp as well, Christian and Claire are dead, therefore, maybe they cannot interact (touching) with living things, that's why aaron was left behind.
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Post by Uncle Igmar on Apr 5, 2009 18:06:42 GMT -5
The only problem with that is that we saw Christian holding Aaron when Claire woke up - that and they had to take the baby to the tree where he was eventually found.
Thinking on it more - it's possible that wherever Christian and Claire are holed up is not safe for anyone living.
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