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Post by Jeremy on Dec 19, 2005 20:21:58 GMT -5
(tongue twister huh? try saying it five times fast)
Here is a theory. I knew all of this church attendance would help me some day.
I don't know the reason (physical or other) for the loss of Locke's legs, but I think that it is definitely tied into His confidence. I would tend to agree with Jack's theory of an accident (i.e. Suicide) and that this loss of confidence may have caused the loss of the use of his legs. That is why Locke feels it is so necessary for him to go on the Walkabout. If I remember correctly, doesn't he say "I Have to do this." I think that he feels that if he is "Strong Enough," he will regain the use of his legs. I think that for him, the Walkabout is a "Weekend Warrior" type of thing. I don't know how or why, but I think that for Locke, enduring the Humility of having to be carried onto the plane changed something in him; the coming to terms with the fact that he didn't have control changed him. When he was on the Island, He began to think that he could do things on his own again, This literally brought him to his knees. (spiritually a God resisting the proud, but exalting the Humble kind of thing).
What do you think?
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Post by Annie on Dec 19, 2005 23:30:28 GMT -5
Yes, they made a point of bringing that helpless-gimp-on-the-airplane scene front and center loud and clear. We could see how absolutely humiliating it was for Locke. He suffered that scene after being rejected at the travel place, too. Double whammy. I do think that he really was a true physical paraplegic, though, and that he experienced a miracle on the Island. Whether it is the strong electromagnetic properties of the Island altering something or supernatural healing, I don't know. I agree that his confidence seems tied to the use of his legs. Inquiring minds want to know. I hope they tell us something useful about Locke's legs soon.
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Post by Annie on Dec 20, 2005 10:57:17 GMT -5
Oh, one more thing, Jeremy. I was thinking last night and trying to remember the scene where Locke first goes boar hunting. He falls down and has a moment of doubt. Then he gets back up and goes for it. I seem to remember the camera angle when he was down on his back was very similar to when he wiggles his toes at the crash site. Perhaps it reminded him of his "gift of healing" and not to waste it. I think the boar moment was a crystallizing moment for Locke. "I can lie here and be paralyzed or I can get up and live life to the fullest. No fear." So he gets up and becomes the Locke we love. So I guess I'm saying Locke's paralysis is a metaphor and meter for his fear. It has been conquered but can come back at any time. I agree with you.
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Post by Jeremy on Dec 20, 2005 15:46:51 GMT -5
Good point about the Boar...I am meaning to go back and watch the Entire first season again now that school is out and I have some free time. Maybe I'll notice some other stuff too. I wasn't really into "reading" the show until well into the first season, so I'm sure I've missed some things!
Also, I agree with you that Locke's Paralysis is Physical. I think you are right on that the "Island Givith and the Island Takeith away."
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Post by Annie on Dec 21, 2005 10:51:32 GMT -5
Wouldn't it be an interesting twist if Locke somehow killed his bio-dad during the accident that paralyzed him? Has the makings of a tradedy. Here's Sawyer wasting his life looking for a guy who's been dead for four years. He's tricked into murdering the wrong guy. Then Sawyer is stranded on the Island with his avenger (Locke) and never knows it. Likewise Locke never knows what his bio-dad did to Sawyer or that he helped balance the karmic wheel a little.
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Post by Jeremy on Dec 21, 2005 15:09:24 GMT -5
I Like it...JJ, Get on that!!!
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Post by evilgus on Dec 21, 2005 22:35:09 GMT -5
Don't forget that when Locke got a bit of metal stuck in his leg, he didn't feel it. That would imply that he hasn't been 'cured' of the paralysis, just that somehow he is able to walk. That is the part of the 'Locke's legs' enigma that doesn't seem to fit.
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Post by Annie on Dec 21, 2005 23:27:27 GMT -5
Yes, as Jeremy said, "The Island giveth and the Island can taketh away."
I really really hope that Locke doesn't go back to paraplegic. That would bum me out. Honestly I'd rather see him killed off the show than back in a wheelchair. Part of that feeling I'm sure parallels modern life. I don't know about you, but I often feel very limited and restricted. One does want to scream, "Don't tell me what I can't do!" from time to time. My solution for now was to quit my job. Seeing Locke suddenly become free and limitless is fantastic! Please don't send him back to that wheelchair, JJ.
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Post by Jeremy on Dec 22, 2005 15:46:06 GMT -5
So, I have a Question from y'all. I was watching Walkabout last night, and listening to Locke's call to Helen. When he is talking to Helen, it sounds like she doesn't really know him that well. Definately doesn't sound like a person who Locke has been "living" with (censored for the Youngins). My theory...After Helen left John, he became obsessed with her. He was able to find someone who had the same name, and attached himself to her. It sounds like she is a naughty phone lady, since she is saying at the end that she will have to charge him if he keeps talking to him. I would especially like to know what JACK thinks about this , but others thoughts are welcome as well! ;D
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Post by xeo on Dec 22, 2005 15:50:15 GMT -5
Hurley wins lottery, Mr Clucks gets hit by metorite, Hurley buys box company, Mr Clucks manager AND Locke worked at the Box factory, then the warehouse blows up and lock was in the warehouse and got injured..booomm
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Post by Jack on Dec 22, 2005 16:12:01 GMT -5
So, I have a Question from y'all. I was watching Walkabout last night, and listening to Locke's call to Helen. When he is talking to Helen, it sounds like she doesn't really know him that well. Definately doesn't sound like a person who Locke has been "living" with (censored for the Youngins). My theory...After Helen left John, he became obsessed with her. He was able to find someone who had the same name, and attached himself to her. It sounds like she is a naughty phone lady, since she is saying at the end that she will have to charge him if he keeps talking to him. I would especially like to know what JACK thinks about this , but others thoughts are welcome as well! ;D I think the first Helen was working for Locke's dad. I think you're right, the second Helen was a naughty phone lady.
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Post by Jeremy on Dec 22, 2005 16:14:02 GMT -5
I agree 100%
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Post by Jeremy on Dec 22, 2005 18:14:09 GMT -5
Honestly I'd rather see him killed off the show than back in a wheelchair... Seeing Locke suddenly become free and limitless is fantastic! Please don't send him back to that wheelchair, JJ. I don't think he will be in the wheelchair. He is connected to the Island, and so I don't see him leaving. I think that he is the "Moses" Character. I can foresee Locke being with them up until the point that they are rescued (if they ever are). However, I think that he will either go into hiding when the rescue comes, or his death will help to rescue the other survivors. I just feel that Locke (at least as far as we have seen in the flashbacks) has no attachment to others. He is the perfect person to lead them to rescue. I think that (If they are rescued. we will see Locke at the top of the mountain, watching them being rescued. I think that Eko is the "Joshua" character who actually leads them to the rescue or back to civilization. Hmmm...I was also thinking that they placed and based a lot of stuff on what they heard from Danielle's recording...[glow=yellow,2,300]on the top of the mountain[/glow]another possible tie-in? (I know, that one isn't as strong, but it stood out to me) Of course, an Aaron is in the Moses story as well, but I am still trying to work out how the Baby plays into this theory. Possibly the fact that pretty much nobody who fled Egypt with Moses made it to the Promised Land (but that hurts the Eko theory...oh well, I'm still working on it) all this to say: I don't think we'll see Locke back in the Wheelchair. Also: I have noticed that I seem to do a lot of posts about the Christian tie-ins. (probably since that is what I am planing on doing later in life) Since Zerubbabel is the Freemason specialist, I nominate myself...Christianty Specialist!!! (though there are probably many others far more deserving of the title )
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Post by zerubbabel on Dec 22, 2005 19:56:36 GMT -5
Remember, those stories are Jewish history. Not just Christian tie-ins.
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Post by Jeremy on Dec 22, 2005 21:44:07 GMT -5
Yeah, I know, but Judeo-Christian Specialist sounds long
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