my problem with heroes

[malcolmthrock]

OK. a lot of people like heroes, and i don't want to offend anyone, but I've probably offended all the heroes fans already. if you are a sensitive heroes fan, DO NOT READ THIS.

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i know I've said that heroes rips off lost, but my real problem is that i don't care about the characters on heroes. i recently (about 5 minutes ago) watched, like, 5 episodes of heroes, but i had to turn it off. i got sick of the characters.

lost. i really like d the characters from the get-go, but my love for the characters started in walkabout. Locke was this lame, boring person, who has always been told that he can't do anything, and on the island, he's told he can't get the boar, but in the end, he does. this reminds me, and a lot of other people, of themselves at one time. it makes you feel for the character, when you see the big reveal that he was crippled, you feel inspired, and moved.

the melodrama on heroes doesn't quite do it for me. you have been waiting to find out who Claire's (heroes, not lost)parents were, but when you find out, you go "wow" but you don't go "wow. i really feel for that character," or "wow. i can really relate to something about this character."

i know there are a lot of people that watch TV, read books, and watch movies for pure entertainment, but what really entertains me is a character that i can relate to, in some shape or form. some people may say "but Malcolm, how can you relate to a hero?" two words. peter parker. the average comic book nerd feels for that character, because they are just like them. you can identify with a super hero, if they are a good character, but i don't really like the characters on heroes.

you can relate to a character that has few in common to you. i am not a doctor, like jack, but i can relate to him in that he was told that he "doesn't have what it takes to be a leader." weather or not i "have what it takes," jack has something in common with me, which makes him more than just a TV character.

I'm not saying i could come up with better characters, but if all you are gonna do in a dramatic show is make characters that amaze you, and none that bring forth a tear, you are wasting your time. that is why lost is the only drama show i watch on TV. (the only other TV shows are south park and Sarah Silverman) i identify with the characters.

heroes, in my opinion is a bad show, but it doesn't mean it is. i don't mind watching an episode every once in a while, but if i don't care about the characters, i don't care about the show.

I'm sure i have angered every heroes fan that has red this, and for that, i say "i warned you."

[SK]

Wow. I just don't like Heroes because it is boring.

[Steve]

I'm fine with heroes. it's just something i watch cause of the twists and stuff, but it's no where near lost. and it's funny because i usually hate comic book movies.

[malcolmthrock]

sk said:

Wow. I just don't like Heroes because it is boring.

yeah. that too. i really can't stand the characters.

[LT Smash]

As a person who loves Heroes, I am not angered by your statement. I think the downside to the show is that it has such a large cast that storylines will get put on the backburner for 2 or 3 weeks. And if thats a character that you like and want to see more of, it can be maddening. As I watch Heroes, I'm more interested as to how the story unfolds a bit more than the characters. But watching Lost, the story unfolds through the characters, which makes it a stronger show.

If Heroes and Lost aired at the same time, I would watch Lost hands down. Until then, I'm going to watch both shows each week and buy the DVD sets when they come out.

[malcolmthrock]

i don't really like the characters, other than hiro, sometimes peter, and what i've seen of sylar.

[SK]

I don't know any of the characters names, because I don't watch the show. I only remember from the first episode, that the Japanese guy was the most interesting. I liked him from the start.

However, I just did not care about anyone else, or what would happen, or just... anything. Also, the pacing is infuriating. Not just overall, I've only seen the one episode. Within the episode things seem to take way to long, and I lost interest by the 24 minute mark.

That's why I think the show is boring. I'm actually disappointed, because I fully expected to like this show, and was looking forward to being excited about it. But it wasn't meant to be, I guess.

[Kay]

For some people it took aroung six Episodes to get into Heroes... I dunno why, but it's a suggestion.

[Emily]

It did take e abou six episodes to get into.

I really do enjoy heroes, and I am not offened by your ideas at all. I just really did, after awhile, fall in love with the characters. i will give you that scenes on the show are sometimes melodrmaadic ("Company man" as the only episdoe that got everthing right hehe_ bu int eh end, I think its a good episode.

My main problem with the show is ,,U;kk tell youa fter shcool ahah

[Emily]

Now that school is over I can say my problem. My problem is not directly heroes is fault, but I hate it when peple say how lost sucks, and heroes rocks. Jay and jack said it themselves, THEY will be complaining next year because right now, the plot is fresh. Bu THEY will get bored (I am putting they in caps because I mean people not like me, who get tired with shows like lost)

[nsmc]

sometimes i feel everyone is so into this 'jumped the shark' concept, and the belief that every show must eventually 'jump the shark' its all people look for, and those people who get bored by complex characters and deep interlaced story lines like Lost has, make up for thier lack of intelligence to understand such complexities by saying ' ooh it jumped the shark'

In my mind 'jumping the shark' is when the writers run out of storylines because they are only writing one episode at a time. Lost isn't even in the same league as that, Lost can't jump the shark, the story is written, the writers have said from day 1. we can only say whether the entire story, 100 episodes, was good, great or horrible ... but until the story is complete no one can say its a bad show ... you haven't even seen the end.

[SK]

kay said:

For some people it took aroung six Episodes to get into Heroes... I dunno why, but it's a suggestion.

That is too many episodes. If it were a movie, and you didn't get into it until halfway through, that would be okay, because you are sitting in the theatre. You're not stuck, but you're there and less inclined to leave.

TV is different. There needs to be something fantastic in that first episode that brings people back. This is why with so many shows a huge amount of people will always list the pilot as their favourite episode. It's the nature of the monster. Maybe someday I will give Heroes another chance, but not for awhile.

[Stephanie]

Heroes was not a show that grabbed me at first. I started off as a casual viewer not expecting a show with no grounding in reality to draw me in. Dang you, HRG! Dang you, Hayden Pants! Dang you, Milo Vegetarian! Now, I'm hooked!
I love Lost because it can be scientifically explained. There is a set story. Perhaps it can be figured out. Heroes can't. The story can go anywhere. I didn't think I could love a show like that. But I have grown to love it.
A tv show can't be all things to all people. I just wish Hollywood would quit trying to market everything to everyone. For example, (SK, I believe you can relate to me on this) I've heard people say that they would love a 24 hour-a-day Adult Swim or a channel devoted to adult cartoons. Is the market big enough for one? Yes. But not as big as tv execs would like. Because they are greedy. Am I making myself clear?