Karma- and why I (dont) care

[Danielle]

olo said:

nochangeofheart said:

oLO,
if you don't like my thread (Colleen's Karma) don't read it.

Respectfully yours,
Danielle

Sorta hard, when its on the "latest posts" 24/7
oLO

Sorry if I like to have a good time there with my friends. Like I said though, if you have no interest in reading about our thread, skip reading those posts.

Oh and I wanted to ask you something earlier: what did you mean when you said the site is not secure?

[PogsKlinc]

olo said:

pogs I really understand how a topic, that has been viewed a hundred times, but has not gotten not a single reply may stop you from posting again; been there for a brief period myself, but then, this may be related to my "special wit". Keep them coming!
quality over quantity!
PS: it´s only the stupid that call others stupid!

oLO

Thanks oLO.

olo said:

nochangeofheart said:

oLO,
if you don't like my thread (Colleen's Karma) don't read it.

Respectfully yours,
Danielle

Sorta hard, when its on the "latest posts" 24/7
oLO

Dani, I have to admit; he does have a point. It almost always is either that thread, or "Ben Linus - Revisited". I also must admit that you have a point. Having fun with friends is great, but another thing I have to agree with oLO on, is that quite a bit of the time, people in the Colleen's karma thread just type +*random number* I think that the attacks on Dani should stop though.

[Blaw]

I've seen many threads like this and they all end the same. Nothing is accomplished and feelings are hurt. I suggest to end it before it gets even more out of hand. Respect the other person's opinion even though it differs with your own.

[Jay]

Ok guys this is getting a little out of hand, Im sorry but Olo what you're doing isn't courageous or isn't even making a valid point.

Yes I agree that you should take the karma thing with a grain of salt. I mean, it's just numbers and we all know what "the numbers" can do to you .

But Olo, your justification for smiting someone on the boards, just because the person doesn't post in the LOST section of the forums often, is childish and just plain petty. I could understand a few smites, but dude you went on a war path. I'm not going to disclose how much you did, but it was a lot in the span of a week.

Now if this person was actually making posts that disrupted conversations, and hindered the enjoyment of people on the forum then yes, I can see a point in smiting them. But to smite someone just because they are having fun, not at the expense of anyone else and to make them feel bad, "and prove your point" is MEAN.

Since you decided to bring your religion into this: Under your avatar it says "my religion is kindness." Do you think what you are doing is kind?

It's this middle school, childish behavior that has made me want to disable the karma option on this forum many times over. The thing that stops me though, is that it is not fair to those that have a great time, NOT DIRECTLY AFFECTING ANYONE ELSE'S enjoyment of the forum to disable it and appease the BULLIES that like to make people feel like crap when they are just trying to have fun.

There is NO rule in this forum that you have to post in the LOST threads. The rules that I hold up the most is to RESPECT other board members, and to have FUN.

NO ONE called you out directly in these forums Olo but YOU decided to bring it to everyones attention.

pogsklinc said:

olo said:

pogs I really understand how a topic, that has been viewed a hundred times, but has not gotten not a single reply may stop you from posting again; been there for a brief period myself, but then, this may be related to my "special wit". Keep them coming!
quality over quantity!
PS: it´s only the stupid that call others stupid!

oLO

Thanks oLO.

olo said:

Sorta hard, when its on the "latest posts" 24/7
oLO

Dani, I have to admit; he does have a point. It almost always is either that thread, or "Ben Linus - Revisited". I also must admit that you have a point. Having fun with friends is great, but another thing I have to agree with oLO on, is that quite a bit of the time, people in the Colleen's karma thread just type +*random number* I think that the attacks on Dani should stop though.

I'm kind of disappointed in your post, p0gs. You seemed to be all gung ho about the karma thread making banners, and didn't object when it was your turn to be exalted many times over.

I am especially disappointed because you have been hurt by being smited harshly. You know first hand how it feels, and how bad it made you feel.

Guys, is the whole karma thing silly? Yes it is. Unfortunately though people like Olo didn't take the time to understand what all the "karma madness" was all about. It's not about giving people a huge amount of "I'm Awesome" points. Its sharing some time with friends and having a good time. I cant tell you how much fun i've had with everyone on the many different karma threads. Starting with getting Jack's karma back from -5,000 to 0, then the karma wars between Jack and I. Then the Colleen's Karma thread. It has never been about the numbers. It's been about sharing a good time with friends, and I'm sad that some just don't get it.

No one is not invited to join, anyone can come "press the button" and actually talk and have fun with people with common interests. THAT is what a forum is all about.

[Norton]

Signature. That is all.

[Ben]

John - you are in the running for best signature ever award.

(Ashlee Simpson - LOL)

[PogsKlinc]

admin said:

pogsklinc said:

Thanks oLO.

Dani, I have to admit; he does have a point. It almost always is either that thread, or "Ben Linus - Revisited". I also must admit that you have a point. Having fun with friends is great, but another thing I have to agree with oLO on, is that quite a bit of the time, people in the Colleen's karma thread just type +*random number* I think that the attacks on Dani should stop though.

I'm kind of disappointed in your post, p0gs. You seemed to be all gung ho about the karma thread making banners, and didn't object when it was your turn to be exalted many times over.

I am especially disappointed because you have been hurt by being smited harshly. You know first hand how it feels, and how bad it made you feel.

I'm sorry Jay. The only thing that I object to when it comes to karma, especially in the karma threads, is when people just post numbers. What would make this better is to have a constant stream of conversation. It's not too hard. Just ask one question and you can get a lot of discussion going from it. I'm sorry if I've offended anyone by what I've posted in this thread. I'm just trying to stay somewhat neutral, and I've failed. I keep contradicting myself. Again, I really am sincerely sorry if I've offended anyone.

[dharmashark]

lol pogs you apologize too much

ben said:

Things are better in the open.

TWSS

[juggs]

I wonder why I am in the negative karma...? who could it be...

I blame dharmashark! and I would smite you if i had it available... but i wasted it exalting you in another thread.

[dharmashark]

Haha. Yeah I think I have smited you before, I forget why.. You do add to that stupid cow's score a lot...

But I didn't get you to -8. You should start a thread and complain about your karma, hahaha

[oLO von B.org]

thanks for your statement Jay! I will stop smiting alltogether since I dont want to disrespect you and a community in uproar is nothing any host likes. And you were right, the "warpath" was not "very buddhist of me". (a delicate topic atm, with all the tibetans being butchered and the cultural genocide going on)
I do think however, pointing out double standards(exalt übercool ,smite totally bad) is something I shouldnt be ashamed of and the reaction to this and similar posts indicates an imbalance or rather an inequality of users ; there are those on the "Karma-In" and those who seek a Lost addendum in the first place and are being frustrated by seeing no response to their work and effort, while witnessing handholding and kumbajah choirs (indirect sawyer quote).

Please accept my sincere apologies for rattling up your board and for the future I will try and find the karmagarten a little less annoying.

Thanks to all who took part in this discourse and big respect to Norton for caring about things that matter ( in my opinion)

oLO von "Dork"


PS: A note on security, Jay please check the proboards2 google results on "hacking" and be careful with any disclosure of admin login-related contence.

[juggs]

dharmashark said:

Haha. Yeah I think I have smited you before, I forget why.. You do add to that stupid cow's score a lot...

But I didn't get you to -8. You should start a thread and complain about your karma, hahaha

so you did smite me. and to think I joined Jon's side instead of Tuckers just because of your sig.

Anyway, I can't waste smites on you, I am smiting John from Philly/uncle Igmar nonstop. I think I dropped him down from around 250 to 200.

Maybe I should let him know about the goal so he doesn't feel upset...

I also had a goal to get the cow to 50 points... I wonder why no one likes the cow?

[the her]

Why are you smiting John from PA so much? I can understand one or two if you dont agree with what he's saying or whatever but isn't taking his karma from 250 to 200 a bit harsh?

[juggs]

I'm shooting to get him to 0,

I PM'd him about it, waiting a response

[Alicia]

First and foremost, I think we all are are more than grateful to Jay and Jack for creating the podcast and forum.

This forum has become family. We have gone beyond just a normal community that came together for one common interest. We have shared each others daily lives, seen many changes, good and bad, gotten through hard times, gone through loses and gains, and even for some of us found romance.

But one thing that we have to remember in any family, especially for one as extremely diverse as ours, that there are going to be many differences of opinions. And I think we all agree that each one of us has the right to express these opinions. Those of us who are more tightly knit can see what the other is trying to express, NO matter what the method. And we all have to rememeber that in any family there is going to be fighting along with caring...if we didn't care, we wouldn't fight.

And any of us that have siblings, we know that when one sibling is recognized over another, there can be feelings of animosity and neglect felt. No matter how it is expressed, we need to look beyond the method of expression and find out what is really going on and try to resolve it. EVERYONE wants to feel that they are seen, recognized, and appreciated for their contributions.

Having said all that, we still need to remember at the end of the day that we are a family, whether some of us like it or not With old and new members alike. Family can be very hard to deal with at times, but it's also what can get us through the day to day grind and bring a lot of comfort, support and happiness to our lives.

I for one, and very proud to be apart of this family.