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Post by Colleen on Apr 3, 2008 7:08:05 GMT -5
The foreplay comment was a joke, since there were kiss faces and the l-word was used. Just a joke. Apologies if it was taken the wrong way.
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Post by oLO von B.org on Apr 3, 2008 8:28:09 GMT -5
Lets try tand stay on topic here Col. I am assuming u didn´t mean to insult anyone, but even us "mature" people would sometimes be off target.
oLO
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Post by Danielle on Apr 3, 2008 9:00:42 GMT -5
So oLO what is your problem with giving people karma? I don't really see why it's a big deal. I see it as a way to say that we are friends or that you said some awesome LOST theory. Or even it being your birthday you should get some karma.
I also agreed with Colleens statement about her karma thread. If you have a problem with the thread then obviously you have a problem with me because I am sure you know it was I who started the thread. If you've been the one smiting me, I'd appreciate it if you would stand up and say you did it.
Repeatedly smiting people for no apparent reason to them is not really cool. Actually it feels like a personal attack when your karma drops 20 points. Does that kind of thing amuse people?
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Post by oLO von B.org on Apr 3, 2008 9:26:53 GMT -5
Hey Dani, it appears you didnt realize it wasnt about giving people karma, but about doing nothing else and giving it away for non-lost related things. It is absolutely ok to have friends and being nice to people but (not only) in your case: I havent seen you do anything BUT exalting people for the sake of, I dunno  Of course you are free to do as you wish, but then, so am I! Smiting and exalting is an anonymous feature of this boardsoftware and personally I have never been told who had lowered my karma, so I saw no reason to explain myself. I appreciate you coming forward however, now that is it a) obvious I was involved in smiting you and b) the database doesnt seem as secure/private as it is supposed to be. I`m happy for you to see your karma go up tremendously as a result of the small amount of smites I "contributed". Looks like my actions did´nt hurt your karmapoints at all in the end. PS: I`m still being tempted to ask:Did you actually watch any of the episodes ? respectfully , oLO |
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Post by PogsKlinc on Apr 3, 2008 9:48:50 GMT -5
Repeatedly smiting people for no apparent reason to them is not really cool. Actually it feels like a personal attack when your karma drops 20 points. Does that kind of thing amuse people? Dani, I know exactly how you feel. I had the same thing happen to me about a year ago. It does feel like an attack, and then, when a thread is made about it, all of the "karma haters" come along and tell you to stop whining. I'd like to thank all of the people who helped get me out of that, and more recently to the Colleen's Karma thread for including me in "Karma Kon '08". I support you Dani, but, I also respect oLO's opinion. Everybody is allowed to think what they want. It happens. My next exalt to you. Hey Dani, it appears you didnt realize it wasnt about giving people karma, but about doing nothing else and giving it away for non-lost related things. It is absolutely ok to have friends and being nice to people but (not only) in your case: I havent seen you do anything BUT exalting people for the sake of, I dunno oLO, now it's my time to address you. This board has always had this strange thing called karma, and there've been threads since the beginning for exalting people for non-Lost related things. (Check out the thread, "Be Nice, Get Exalted" www.lostpodcast.proboards2.com/index.cgi?board=atik&action=display&n=1&thread=5777&page=1 ) I always have enjoyed having this karma on the boards, but the smiting does sometimes get out of hand. Now for a reference of what happened to me about a year ago. I was at about 120 karma one night and went to bed. I woke up the next morning, 109, then it kept dropping faster and faster, until a few people, (most noticably, Bev (Thanks again.  )), out of many people who responded (against me) on these threads helped get me back to where I was. It really hurts when nobody tells you that they're mad at you, and just smite you constantly instead. I know exactly how Dani feels. I think that, since the board has had this option since the beginning, we should be able to exalt randomly to make people feel happy, over attacking their karma and majorly reducing it and making them feel hurt and confused. Now that was definitely uncalled for. I almost never post in the Lost boards, just because nobody listens to my posts anyways. My post makes no difference, so why even post it. At least Dani posts there more than I do. I should be the one getting the smites if that's the reason that you're smiting her. |
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Post by Ben on Apr 3, 2008 10:06:44 GMT -5
To be honest, I don't think there is any link between karma on these boards and karma in your religion.
This karma is for fun, and yes smiting can be a part of that.
I exalt people if I feel they are part of the community or if they need a boost or whatever - and I rarely smite unless someone says something completely out of line.
Even in the big Jeff Buckley debate-a-thon of last year to which I was a part in an alias I will never give away, I never smited one single point.
This post is getting random and is hardly a response so I apologise
Oh and Dani, I totally agree. Being smited in secret is like being backstabbed. Things are better in the open.
Oh and also (randomly): I can still remember the first post oLO made. I was in France and... *sigh*
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Post by PogsKlinc on Apr 3, 2008 10:11:48 GMT -5
This argument is an especially hard one for me, considering that I'm friends with both oLO and Dani. It's really hard for me to take a side. I'm sorry oLO, but I can relate more to what Dani is going through then what you are. I'm sorry, but I'm going with Jack's camp.  |
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Post by Ben on Apr 3, 2008 10:22:37 GMT -5
Hey Dani, it appears you didnt realize it wasnt about giving people karma, but about doing nothing else and giving it away for non-lost related things. She made her point clear - people can be exalted for a birthday can't they? Jay made his big bet with Coll about how high she could get her karma. Why didn't you come forward then? Karma doesn't give you status, it doesn't change anything. Colleen doesn't get more admin rights because of her karma, nor does anyone else. It's a level playing field and it's just for FUN |
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Post by lijames on Apr 3, 2008 10:23:03 GMT -5
This argument is an especially hard one for me, considering that I'm friends with both oLO and Dani. It's really hard for me to take a side. I'm sorry oLO, but I can relate more to what Dani is going through then what you are. I'm sorry, but I'm going with Jack's camp. I don't think anyone needs to take sides guys....Olo doesn't like the idea of exalting people for no reason other then someone woke up and said, hey lets Exalt(insert name) today. We've also all said its Olo's right to smite people that he wants to and now we know the reason why he's smiting certain people, he believes that Karma should be given for contributions with substance. Now one might argue that having fun in a thread about Karma is substance and creating neat banners and such is a contribution and some would argue that it's just crap. I like Colleen's Karma thread and have made 3-4 friends out of it so while it sucks that some people might not like what goes on in there, that's life everyone doesn't have to agree. Instead let Olo express himself in the way he feels he needs to and we all can enjoy our time on this board however we choose. At the very least we know one of her smiters and thats all we can really ask. +366 for Dani! |
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Post by oLO von B.org on Apr 3, 2008 10:30:16 GMT -5
Pogs, at least you did post lost-related contence!!! And how would a count of "exalt+XXX for "binding your shoelaces" posts make a difference ? I actually enjoyed the posts you made pogs and would like to read more of them. After all, that is why there is a board in addition to the podcast/ call ins. And I´m all for community and helping each others out, but seriously, if a number on a message board is the only issue to post, then something is wrong in my opinion- there are forums/communities way more appropriate for that sort of indulgence . And I really appreciate the karma inflation issue is finally being discussed. oLO PS: Ben karma for fun, sure, that would even coincide with my believe; but that wasnt my point; I believe , if Dani had something to say about lost , I would like to hear it. I am simply being annoyed by seeing a useful tool of this software being made irrelevant and clogging up the "recent posts". I guess my major point is: CONTRIBUTE!  |
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Post by oLO von B.org on Apr 3, 2008 10:34:38 GMT -5
james.....
Word!
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Post by PogsKlinc on Apr 3, 2008 10:45:34 GMT -5
Pogs, at least you did post lost-related contence!!! I actually enjoyed the posts you made pogs and would like to read more of them. After all, that is why there is a board in addition to the podcast/ call ins. Thanks oLO. I'll try to make a few more posts in the Lost section, even if the posts seem irrelevant to me. Me too. I'm really glad to be debating with some really intellegent people who are actually willing to debate instead of telling me to stop whining and calling me stupid. I try to contribute, but most of the time, I don't get many, if any responses. That's the reason that I haven't posted in the Lost board. It just didn't seem like anyone cared. I will be posting there more once April 24th comes around. |
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Post by oLO von B.org on Apr 3, 2008 10:58:35 GMT -5
pogs I really understand how a topic, that has been viewed a hundred times, but has not gotten not a single reply may stop you from posting again; been there for a brief period myself, but then, this may be related to my "special wit". Keep them coming! quality over quantity! PS: it´s only the stupid that call others stupid! oLO |
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Post by Danielle on Apr 3, 2008 12:33:50 GMT -5
oLO,
I'd really appreciate it if the personal attacks at me would just stop. You say my exalting is pointless, I say attacking me is pointless. I was rather offended when you asked if I even watch LOST. What would the purpose of being on a message board related to LOST if I didn't watch the show? Just because I don't have any theories to post does not mean that I don't contribute. Personally, I enjoy reading other people's theories. In case you missed it, I participated in the live LOST podcast back in January and I was there for several random hours during the 25 hour marathon podcast and even asked a question to Jorge Garcia.
Also if you don't like my thread (Colleen's Karma) don't read it.
Respectfully yours,
Danielle
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Post by oLO von B.org on Apr 3, 2008 12:53:45 GMT -5
oLO, if you don't like my thread (Colleen's Karma) don't read it. Respectfully yours, Danielle Sorta hard, when its on the "latest posts" 24/7 oLO |
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)), out of many people who responded (against me) on these threads helped get me back to where I was. It really hurts when nobody tells you that they're mad at you, and just smite you constantly instead. I know exactly how Dani feels. I think that, since the board has had this option since the beginning, we should be able to exalt randomly to make people feel happy, over attacking their karma and majorly reducing it and making them feel hurt and confused.
