ARCHIVED: The Lost Experience J&J Wiki

[Redsox]

kellie said:

Is there a way to require registration & login before posting on the wiki?

i dont beleve so becuse thats part of the good part of wikis any one can contribute

[ralph-]

I will talk to Jay about people messing with the wiki.

i dont understand why people feel the need to alter the wiki for the worse. it is just a learning tool, that benefits everyone.

[kellie]

redsox, that is true... and one of the inherent downsides to a wiki. However I have seen implementations that require a password in order to modify the content. Leo Laporte's KFI show notes wiki being one that immediately comes to mind. www.leoville.tv/radio/ShowNotes/Show246

The username can be anything but the password is given during the radio show and you must enter it correctly in order to edit the page.

Perhaps a simple procedure where people who want to have access email one of the moderators (or perhaps just JLSK as he is the official keeper of the wiki) to get the password. As long as they've been a good contributor on the boards, we are more likely to cut down on the spam. And if we do get spammed, we just change the password.

[jacksloststepkid]

Or you can do it like Leo and have them mention the wiki word of the week in the podcast :-)

I'm open to whatever makes sense, but having some simple gating mechanism would probably help.

JLSK

[kellie]

I do like that idea.. although you still might get some crazies and/or spammers. But my guess is that it would cut down on the most blatant instances.

[jacksloststepkid]

OK - added the new website that is in THF.org source code. I also pulled out thehansofoundation.org section to be it's own page for the sake of page length. As sections continue to get overly large, I'll keep splitting them off to separate pages.

JLSK

[samintucson]

I added clips 4 and 6 for Gary Troup's Interview to the Wiki... I'm still looking for clip 5.

[msbroberts]

Hi not sure to add to the Wiki....

but this info on the real wiki was commented on as very acurate with a link on the abc site.
It was scheduleds for rapid deletion, so I copied it, is some ones to add it.

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''(Content of this page relates to the fiction world of the television show [[Lost (TV series)|Lost]])''

THIS IS FICTIONAL
Part of the TV show ''LOST'' background information. Currently the official ABC site links here and makes the comment:

Enzo
I just got an e-mail from an astute reader. She didn't say much, but she strongly sugested I check out the WIKI article for Valenzetti.

So I did. (link)
At the moment it seems VERY accurate.

[msbroberts]

Sorry....

that was the header. here is the actual info:

Though shrouded in mystery, this much is known about the '''Valenzetti''' Equation: it is a mathematical calculation designed to predict nothing less than the exact number of years left before the extinction of the human race. Although little is known about the circumstances leading to the creation of the equation, mystery novelist [[Gary Troup]] put forward an interesting theory in his sole non-fiction book "The Valenzetti Equation" (a fair-to-middling tome which owes as much to popular conspiracy fiction as it does to higher mathematics).

According to Troup - whose research is primarily based on interviews with "UN members" willing to break their non-disclosure agreements, and recently declassified Soviet files - the equation was the end result of a study commissioned by the United Nations following the [[Cuban Missile Crisis]]. With their respective nations having just faced the very precipice of mutually-assured destruction, the United States and Soviet Union - under the auspices of the Security Council - secretly sought Valenzetti out as a disinterested third party and charged him with the creation of an infallible mathematical algorithm for the prediction of Armageddon.

Less than a year later, Valenzetti returned with his eponymous equation - which, reportedly, is not unlike the [[Drake Equation]] (sometimes mistakenly referred to as the "Sagan Equation"), but far greater in complexity. Because of the conditions of secrecy under which Valenzetti produced his work, the totality of the equation has never been brought to light, nor has his final tally for the number of years left before the human race extinguishes itself with nuclear fire. Compounding the mystery is Valenzetti's steadfast refusal to discuss his work (he is best known for allegedly torching his proof of [[Fermat's last theorem]] after it was verified by a group of colleagues). Valenzetti’s mysterious death and Gary Troup's disappearance (and presumed death) on [[Oceanic Flight 815]], which was lost over the pacific on September 2004.

==Enzo Valenzetti==

Very little is known about Enzo Valenzetti, save that he was born in the island of [[Sardinia]] sometime in the late 1920's. Identified as a math prodigy from an early age, Valenzetti attended the prestigious '''Fibonacci''' State Institute of Advanced Sciences early in life - achieving the equivalent of a full doctorate before the age of sixteen - but his strident desire for privacy, compounded by a gag order placed on his personal information by the Italian government - reportedly in exchange for his services - has thwarted even the most intense of inquiries into his career and movements, and Valenzetti’s death silenced many who sought to tell his story. Similarly, Valenzetti has never published his research - but his reputation is legendary among mathematicians and scientists alike.

As a young man, Valenzetti reportedly spent a significant amount of time in the company of such luminaries as [[Kurt Godel]], [[Albert Einstein]], and [[John Forbes Nash]], but, as no record exists of his having had a tenure at any major academic institution, it is difficult to establish his exact contributions to the field. Most controversial among those who follow advanced mathematics is the contention, made by several prominent figures in the early sixties, that Valenzetti was first to devise a proof of Fermat's last theorem - a proof verified by several colleagues - only to throw the completed work in the fire so that - according to his former assistant - "other could have as much fun as he did in solving it."

Valenzetti's most legendary contribution is said to be his eponymous equation. Anecdotal reports indicate that Valenzetti, at the request of the United Nations, devised a complicated algorithm capable of predicting the exact date of the extinction of the human race. As with so many things relating to Valenzetti, the actual equation has never been seen. The result of Valenzetti's equation remains unknown and is the subject of much speculation. Sadly the answers to many of the mysteries of Valenzetti’s life vanished with him after his single-engine plane crashed during a trans-European flight

[nctrnlbst]

It took some searching, but I was able to track down some of the links which were later removed from the djdan site. I was able to track down 13 of the 15-20 links (I think there were 15 I'm not sure), and I posted them in the wiki.

[jacksloststepkid]

heh - my guess is that they were not a part of the game and suddenly got hit by a wave of traffic... ABC pulled them to keep the sites bandwidth limits from getting overloaded.

JLSK

[jacksloststepkid]

Oh, also, nctrnlbst, or anyone adding to the wiki. Multiple times a day people come to the wiki and randomly delete or change content to spam URLs, etc. Before posting anything on a page that is new, go into the history tab and look for any recent changes to the page that were done that might need to be reverted. If there were no changes and everything looks legit, then add your content. If you find something amiss, you can revert to the last good version, by clicking on the last good page in the history list, choose edit in the top tab of that page and then go to the bottom and save the page (usually I put "revert" into the save box so others know what the change was for).

I bring this up because these links you added happened after someone had deleted two sections of the main page, so I ended up reverting to an earlier copy and then readding in your links again.

I'll talk to the admins about getting some sort of weekly password for folks to edit the wiki, because this is happening daily.

JLSK

[kellie]

I added the new clues (and what to do with them) from the HansoCareers site to the HansoCareers section and also to the THF.org wikis.

[nctrnlbst]

jacksloststepkid said:

Oh, also, nctrnlbst, or anyone adding to the wiki. Multiple times a day people come to the wiki and randomly delete or change content to spam URLs, etc. Before posting anything on a page that is new, go into the history tab and look for any recent changes to the page that were done that might need to be reverted. If there were no changes and everything looks legit, then add your content. If you find something amiss, you can revert to the last good version, by clicking on the last good page in the history list, choose edit in the top tab of that page and then go to the bottom and save the page (usually I put "revert" into the save box so others know what the change was for).

I bring this up because these links you added happened after someone had deleted two sections of the main page, so I ended up reverting to an earlier copy and then readding in your links again.

I'll talk to the admins about getting some sort of weekly password for folks to edit the wiki, because this is happening daily.

JLSK

This is getting friggin rediculous! One suggestion that I have that may help stop this is that Jay and Jack star a blog somewhere where you guys can back up all the legit info. Let the peons post in the wiki, and then certain individuals with the blog password can then post it on the blog. At least that way, you don't have to worry about losing anything, and that all the info on the blog is legit because trusted users put it there and not any old shmuck who happes upon the site.

[jacksloststepkid]

Well a nice part of the wiki is that you pretty much don't ever lose anything. it's just a pain. I'm talking to Ralph and Jay about this and we'll see what we can do. I'm personally thinking a "wiki word of the week" would work very well.