Post by jacksloststepkid on May 5, 2006 0:45:37 GMT -5
I noticed that thehansofoundation.org has no terms and conditions link anywhere to the disney site. We know that it is official because of the advertisement and past history.
In the past the lithmus test for not being fake was a terms and conditions link and a domain registry that went to ABC, niether of which thehansofoundation.org has.
So,
This got posted on the Wiki:
www.thehansofoundation.org - Verified as an ABC Web Site
www.widmore.com - Verified by WHOIS lookup as a registered Web Site to ABC, Inc.
www.minnesotametallurgy.com - Verified by WHOIS lookup as a site registered to Cameron Widmore, 320 W 66th St, New York, NY (Known address of ABC Studio for "The View").
www.thewidmoregroup.com - Not verified, however pages and images served in the gallery on minnesotametalurgy.com come from this domain.
www.hansogroup.com - Not verified, however going to the main page of thewidmoregroup.com redirects you through this url and then passes you off to thehansofoundation.org.
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First Widmore is not registered to ABC or Disney in any search I can make. None of these sites have terms links. So how do we know what is official?
Personally, the test that makes sense to me is if the date of registry predates the appearance of the name in the show.
So for Widmore.com here is the internic info:
The data contained in this Registrar's Whois database,
while believed by the company to be reliable, is provided "as is"
with no guarantee or warranties regarding its accuracy. This information
is provided for the sole purpose of assisting you in obtaining
information about domain name registration records. Any use of
this data for any other purpose is expressly forbidden without
the prior written permission of the Registrar. By submitting an
inquiry, you agree to these terms of usage and limitations of warranty.
In particular, you agree not to use this data to allow, enable, or
otherwise make possible, dissemination or collection of this data, in
part or in its entirety, for any purpose, such as the transmission of
unsolicited advertising and solicitations of any kind, including spam.
You further agree not to use this data to enable high volume, automated
or robotic electronic processes designed to collect or compile this data
for any purpose, including mining this data for your own personal or
commercial purposes.
Please note: the owner of the domain name is specified in the "registrant" field.
In most cases, the Registrar is not the owner of domain names listed in this database.
Registrant:
ABC, Inc.
Registered through: Chapter Zero Domains
Domain Name: WIDMORE.COM
Domain servers in listed order:
CZ1.CHAPTERZEROHOSTING.COM
CZ2.CHAPTERZEROHOSTING.COM
The original air date for fire and water where widmore was revealed was January 25th. The official lost pocast revealed that the wording was Widmore Construction on the 6th of February I believe. This site was registered the 8th of February.
I have no idea where the information about minnesotametallurgy.com came from - I do not see this at all when I do a look up.
Curious what you all think. I would say that valenzetti.com, thevalenzettiequation.com, enzovalenzetti.com and valenzettiequation.com are all official because they were all registered 3 days prior to the map episode.
Any thoughts?
JLSK
In the past the lithmus test for not being fake was a terms and conditions link and a domain registry that went to ABC, niether of which thehansofoundation.org has.
So,
This got posted on the Wiki:
www.thehansofoundation.org - Verified as an ABC Web Site
www.widmore.com - Verified by WHOIS lookup as a registered Web Site to ABC, Inc.
www.minnesotametallurgy.com - Verified by WHOIS lookup as a site registered to Cameron Widmore, 320 W 66th St, New York, NY (Known address of ABC Studio for "The View").
www.thewidmoregroup.com - Not verified, however pages and images served in the gallery on minnesotametalurgy.com come from this domain.
www.hansogroup.com - Not verified, however going to the main page of thewidmoregroup.com redirects you through this url and then passes you off to thehansofoundation.org.
++++++++++
First Widmore is not registered to ABC or Disney in any search I can make. None of these sites have terms links. So how do we know what is official?
Personally, the test that makes sense to me is if the date of registry predates the appearance of the name in the show.
So for Widmore.com here is the internic info:
The data contained in this Registrar's Whois database,
while believed by the company to be reliable, is provided "as is"
with no guarantee or warranties regarding its accuracy. This information
is provided for the sole purpose of assisting you in obtaining
information about domain name registration records. Any use of
this data for any other purpose is expressly forbidden without
the prior written permission of the Registrar. By submitting an
inquiry, you agree to these terms of usage and limitations of warranty.
In particular, you agree not to use this data to allow, enable, or
otherwise make possible, dissemination or collection of this data, in
part or in its entirety, for any purpose, such as the transmission of
unsolicited advertising and solicitations of any kind, including spam.
You further agree not to use this data to enable high volume, automated
or robotic electronic processes designed to collect or compile this data
for any purpose, including mining this data for your own personal or
commercial purposes.
Please note: the owner of the domain name is specified in the "registrant" field.
In most cases, the Registrar is not the owner of domain names listed in this database.
Registrant:
ABC, Inc.
Registered through: Chapter Zero Domains
Domain Name: WIDMORE.COM
Domain servers in listed order:
CZ1.CHAPTERZEROHOSTING.COM
CZ2.CHAPTERZEROHOSTING.COM
The original air date for fire and water where widmore was revealed was January 25th. The official lost pocast revealed that the wording was Widmore Construction on the 6th of February I believe. This site was registered the 8th of February.
I have no idea where the information about minnesotametallurgy.com came from - I do not see this at all when I do a look up.
Curious what you all think. I would say that valenzetti.com, thevalenzettiequation.com, enzovalenzetti.com and valenzettiequation.com are all official because they were all registered 3 days prior to the map episode.
Any thoughts?
JLSK
