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Post by rasalghul on Jan 23, 2006 17:15:15 GMT -5
Hi Jack,
This is a comment to your question about Jack asking Ana-Lucia to train the army and not asking Sayid to do it.
We'll I think it was pretty clear when Jack started to point out that he heard that she has killed an Other by herself. He has witnessed in the jungle with his own scientific eyes that the others seems to have some kind of special abilities to move in stealth mode in the jungle. As she has lived and talked with an Other, so she certainly has an unique expertise on the Others subject.
I think that Jay was right to point out that Sayid is grieving over Shannon's death so it's not the moment to ask him to train people to kill ! However, as a army communication and intelligence specialist, he certainly has an interesting knowledge of group organization and military strategy, so he willl take part of it and he may sign an unofficial peace treaty with Ana-Lucia then.
But Dr Jack (I think it's good to call Jack Shepherd as Dr Jack, as it is shorter and you're not a doctor!) has never seen Sayid kill anybody and he's been reluctant to torture Sawyer so as he learned that Ana-Lucia has killed an Other without much trauma, he thought that she may be mentally strong and may find the words to teach her toughness to the other survivors.
What do you think guys ?
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Post by joss on Jan 27, 2006 15:15:50 GMT -5
Personally I have to side with HJ on this issue, no offence.
I think Sayid has enough official military training to pull himself out of grief; I mean, I'm sure he's had people close to him get killed before.
I think Ana-Lucia gets too trigger happy and will probably kill people on her own side.
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Post by wesh on Jan 28, 2006 7:07:58 GMT -5
Mayb he was just too busy making that new transceiver/receiver or whatever. He still want to get off the island anxiously. He asked Charlie to help him out just before he spotted the fire, but he refused so he had to make do with a louzy extra  I just think Jack (not HJ) asked her, because the writers have prepared another storyline for Sayid.. Mayb he's gonna side with Locke and kinda try to stop this 'war'? Although i don't quite see why he would want to stop it, but maybe reasons will be creacted in the next few eps. |
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Post by rasalghul on Jan 29, 2006 6:53:29 GMT -5
There's also the fact that the Others aren't playing by the book. Their motivations and methods aren't conventional. So the survivors needs people who think out of the box, or people ready to play it rough to provide solutions against those d**n Others.
That's why Ana-Lucia may be a better choice considering her background that we know and what she has done to Goodwin, a fact that the survivors know.
But I agree with you wesh that, it's a way for the writers to provide a non-expected plot for Sayid later and surely more interactions between Jack and Ana-Lucia that Jack seems to trust more and more because of Kate betrayal and Locke going crazy...
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Post by mutt on Feb 2, 2006 16:20:24 GMT -5
of course asking her
will set things in motion
and make it an easy way to kill off ana lucia
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Post by Annie on Feb 3, 2006 13:00:04 GMT -5
Still in terms of warfare methods, Sayid has to be more knowledgable, capable, and experienced than Ana Lucia. He knows about setting trip wires, avoiding mines, etc. that military people know and police officers generally don't. We are in a jungle, not urban environment.
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Post by Dirge on Feb 3, 2006 13:29:38 GMT -5
Personally I have to side with HJ on this issue, no offence. I think Sayid has enough official military training to pull himself out of grief; I mean, I'm sure he's had people close to him get killed before. I think Ana-Lucia gets too trigger happy and will probably kill people on her own side. But lets remember, sayid never saw "action". Sayid only was a communications officer and an expert at torure. He wasn`t skilled in any army like tactics as far as we know. I totaly agree with rasalghul on this one to be honest. |
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Post by Annie on Feb 3, 2006 16:47:36 GMT -5
Yes, I think he was. He demonstrated it to Charlie when he cauterized Charlie's headwound with a bullet. I don't remember him saying he never saw action. He told Hurley that he served in the Gulf War. Even specialists in the armed forces go through combat training.
I think one reason Jack didn't ask for Sayid's help is Jack knows he can't boss Sayid around. Sayid would challenge him. Ana Lucia is a vengeful person for one thing, Jack has a rapport with her for another, and she "owes" the camp something for killing Shannon so is likely to go along with Jack, at least for a while.
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Post by Dirge on Feb 4, 2006 10:56:00 GMT -5
Very true.
Also, your very right. Also i think the main reason Jack choose her was down to the simple fact that she killed one of them.
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Post by mutt on Feb 11, 2006 21:37:38 GMT -5
who knows
maybe Jack is simply asking her to give her a purpose
a reason to get up in the morning
and
to make her feel needed & accepted
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Post by Jeroen on Feb 15, 2006 15:01:50 GMT -5
I think he wanted to have a person who'd side with him. If he would approach Sayid alone he would have very little chance, especially since Sayid left after he tortured a man again, something he swore never to do again. (Not that good an argument after the most recent promo's, by the way)
What I mean is, Ana-Lucia is kind of alone, and would grab every opportunity to belong to a group again. And I think Jack knew that, and that's why he went to her. Now he's convinced her, they've asked others to join them, and will continue to do so.
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