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Post by ralph- on Feb 27, 2006 13:29:59 GMT -5
I own a double neck S.G. The thing is so heavy though I rarely used it on stage. so jack is right, you do have little weak guitar playing arms! incase anyone was wondering here i go...I like film scores by Danny Elfman, John WIlliams, James Newton Howard, John Powell, Bernard Herrmann, Jerry Goldsmith,John Barry, Mark Mothersbaugh, Basil Poledouris, David Arnold, Steve Jablonsky, Michael Giacchino, Akira Ifukube, Graeme Revell, Howard Shore, Edward Shearmur's 'Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow! as for groups...Oingo Boingo,Beck, Janes Addiction, They Might Be Giants, Men At Work, The White Stripes, Michael McDonald, Daft Punk, Propellerheads!, Ursula 1000. Jay! Mad Props for Robert Rodriguez. the music that he did with John Debney and Graeme Revell on Sin City, was FLAWLESS!
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Post by Jay on Feb 27, 2006 13:52:23 GMT -5
That has nothing to do with arms, Its your back. If you ever get a chance to play a Gibson Double Neck guitar, strap it on and see how long you last. Gibsons are heavy as it is so having two of them in one guitar adds to that.
Jimmy Page has a permanent sloucj in that shoulder from his double neck
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Post by lieutenantspeirs on Feb 27, 2006 14:47:05 GMT -5
ralph-, it looks like you got Jay P.O'd. Jay speaks truth, however. It makes me wonder sometimes how Steve Vai can still walk, what with his triple necks the size of mexico. Props for the Stripes though, I love Jack White.
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Post by ralph- on Feb 27, 2006 14:51:16 GMT -5
that is nuts. i know very little about guitars . why does it have to be so heavy? can you get a similar sound out of a lighter guitar? i guess that guitar players are monogamus with their guitars. i know that there is definitly a relationship between players and their instruments. i just think it is crazy to continuously play an instrument that alters you physically. but i guess that makes you cooler. cause how hard core is Jimmy Page, that when someone asks about slouch, he can say, CAUSE I ROCK SO HARD! that is neat. i learned something new today!
i hope jay isn't po'd, i winked!
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Post by darthjerryt on Feb 27, 2006 15:03:32 GMT -5
I agree about Sin City. Awesome music! Robert Rodriguez is the definition of an indy filmmaker imo. Even though I hate Titanic, I think James Horner should be in there. I know nothing about guitar playing. This is cool insider info. But I have one question, do you think Page is better than Hendrix? I mean who has more skill with playing a guitar?
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Post by lieutenantspeirs on Feb 27, 2006 15:57:41 GMT -5
Jay's the real expert but I would say that Page was at least the better (and, IMO, the best) songwriter and riff creator. Hendrix was pretty wild though, playing with his teeth and behind his back and setting his guitar on fire. He also laid alot of the foundations for guitarists after him. Hendrix could make nearly any sound come out of his guitar, plus, instead of playing a left-handed guitar, he just flipped his right-handed guitar and played it upside down. Page was more versatile though, as he could (and probably still can) play any genre of music he wanted to.
Just my two cents
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Post by servo3k on Feb 27, 2006 17:15:02 GMT -5
ralph, some people just have heavier guitars becasue they happen to have better sounds, its a lot of work to build up the strengh to use 'em though. Im nearmy 95% acoustic though so i can geet away with sitting on the edge of a stool or chair when i play. it sucks casue when i play my brothers strat i have to stand to play conforably and the strap feals like a friggen' ton!
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Post by Jay on Feb 27, 2006 17:31:50 GMT -5
Page, or Hendrix
Definitely Page, He has introduced so many playing techniques and recording techniques that is used on just about every recording you hear today. Granted Hendrix was a great player, but Page beats him. Page spent years as a studio musician before he joined the Yardbirds, and then Zeppelin. Did you know Page played on the Kinks "You Really Got Me" The Who's "Can't Explain", Donovan's Hurdy Gurdy Man" and "Mellow Yellow" and Hundreds of other songs.
Hendrix was great at the Blues genre, Page great at the Blues, Folk, Classical, Rock 'n' Roll, Helped invent Hard Rock as we know it today, great at World Music, and many other genres.
I can go on for hours about Page, oh and for the record Hendrix did flip a right handed guitar, but.... He reversed the strings right side up, so he wasn't playing it upside down. Now there are guitarist who do play with the strings upside down. One of my favorites is richard Dale, I reversed the strings on my Telecaster and it is a cool way to take the guitar and do something different.
And yea Gibsons are usually pretty heavy because of the Wood used a Les Paul has a Mahogany Back with a Maple top strap that around your shoulder and over time it will get uncomfortable. And I'm not PO'd no worries ;D
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Post by darthjerryt on Feb 27, 2006 19:25:58 GMT -5
Do you mean richard Dale the surf guitar king? The Yardbirds must have been awesome when Beck, Clapton, and Page were members together. I knew Page was a studio musician but didn't realize he played on those songs. Page probably did start playing at a younger age than Hendrix and I bet had more professional training than Jimi. It seemed Hendrix was a natural but far from classically trained.
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Post by Jay on Feb 27, 2006 20:41:08 GMT -5
oops the sensor sensors when you say d-i-c-k
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Post by Spam Lives on Feb 27, 2006 23:36:41 GMT -5
Just to help back up Jay double necks are really heavy and it puts a lot of strain on the back. Any opinion on Eric Clapton? Also as far as more modern bands go what about cKy?
Your Hero, Paul
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Post by ralph- on Feb 28, 2006 0:09:04 GMT -5
Oh yeah, I love ELO, and this is from before Mr. Blue Sky became all popular in the Eternal Sunshine trailer!
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Post by lieutenantspeirs on Feb 28, 2006 11:15:12 GMT -5
Beck, Clapton, and Page were never in the Yardbirds at the same time. Page was Clapton's replacement, and Beck left soon afterwards. Page then reformed the band as the New Yardbirds with Robert Plant, John Bonham, and John Paul Jones, later renaming themselves Led Zeppelin.
By the way, Hendrix started playing at 14, Page at 13.
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Post by darthjerryt on Feb 28, 2006 15:29:24 GMT -5
I was reading about Page and learned he got into drugs and became an addict by the late 70's. I guess that explains why Led Zeppelin's last few albums were not up to par as compared to their other albums. I didn't realize we had sensors LOL! I guess we mean the same guy. I like Clapton in Cream and Derek and the Dominoes mainly. I've heard of Camp Kill Yourself, but not their music. I like a lot of ELOs stuff.
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Post by lieutenantspeirs on Mar 1, 2006 7:27:04 GMT -5
Page was into a lot more than just drugs. He also was into satanism and had a 15 year old girlfriend. Speaking of not up to par, Page was drunk or something during Live Aid. Clapton was great in Cream but his later stuff is just sappy ballads, like "Wonderful Tonight"
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