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Post by evilgus on Nov 25, 2005 11:41:32 GMT -5
About 16 minutes and 40 seconds into 'Collision', Locke is passing the time to type in the code by doing that crossword. Immediately when I saw that, I thought there would be some clues (heh) in there.
The most obvious one being the Gilgamesh answer he puts in for the clue 'Enkidu's friend'. This is supposedly a myth from Babylon about some god guy, you all know that probably.
But what struck me on closer inspection, were the across answers. The ones i could see were; Ghare, Siend, Acolns, Imgtative, Laa, Epers, Asids.
The down clues we get to see briefly all seem to be correct, but they are all quite easy, common words.
So what the hell is going on with those across answers?
Gilgamesh is close to being an anagram of 'i heal legs', I got all excited for a minute, but realised its not quite right. There's an E where the M should be.
I don't think Locke wrote the other answers in, because the writing seems different. So, whoever wrote the other answers in could be deranged or daft. Perhaps it was Desmond, who knows where the crossword came from.
Perhaps im over-analysing it far too much.
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Post by Jay on Nov 25, 2005 12:41:59 GMT -5
I knew gilgamesh was important, but i dont remember his story, does anyone have a quick review of the story, like some spark notes or something?
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Post by evilgus on Nov 25, 2005 12:48:31 GMT -5
taken from fajardo-acosta.com/worldlit/gilgamesh/The Epic of Gilgamesh is the story of King Gilgamesh of Uruk who oppresses his people. As punishment, the gods send him a companion, Enkidu, who is his mirror image and becomes his good friend. Together, Gilgamesh and Enkidu defy the gods by killing the giant Humbaba, cutting down the sacred cedar forest which he guards, and killing the Bull of Heaven. Enkidu has ominous dreams of the destiny of tyrants who become slaves in the House of Death. Enkidu finally dies of an illness sent by the gods. Horrified by Enkidu's death and the prospect of his own demise, Gilgamesh undertakes a quest for immortality which brings him to the abode of Utnapishtim, a virtuous man who obeys the gods and was saved by them from the Great Flood. Utnapishtim puts Gilgamesh to various tests which he fails and eventually sends him away, assuring him that he cannot escape death. A humbled Gilgamesh returns to Uruk and orders his story to be inscribed in stone. |
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Post by heyes on Nov 25, 2005 13:33:28 GMT -5
Hmmm...his mirror image? There aren't any identical twins on the island but there certianly are characters that parallel each other. Mr. Eko and Locke anyone? I doubt that the connection goes any further than being an insight to a companionship that might form between those two characters. But, the mention of an illness is intriguing. If that element of the old story should come to pass, the question will be who's Enkidu in the situation?
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Post by Sawyer on Nov 25, 2005 21:44:45 GMT -5
PARALLEL CHARACTERS:
(What I think)
Jack/Ana Lucia
Eko/Locke
Sawyer/Kate
If I think of more I'll edit this and add em.
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Post by evilgus on Nov 26, 2005 2:28:40 GMT -5
I like Heyes's interpretation. But I'm not sure that the whole Gilgamesh story is meant to tie in with Locke. It could be, of course, but while he was writing that in, the main emphasis of he story was on Anna and Sayid.
For that reason, i think the Gilgamesh of Lost could well be Sayid. He and Anna could end up being good friends, and she might die.
It's pure conjecture, and is probably wrong, but that's just the way i see it right now.
Also, after thinking about it for a while, I think the reason the across words are complete nonsense, could just be a device to draw our attention to the word Locke was putting in.
It will inevitably become one of those little hints that, while not being a major spoiler for the entire plot of the show, is just a little clue as to what is coming up next.
Just a little hint as to who may die, rather than a total explanation of what is going on on the island.
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Post by Jay on Nov 26, 2005 11:00:01 GMT -5
Wow those are really good points. I do like the Locke and Eko comparison, I mean that awesome shot of Eko, and Locke was done for a reason. Like i said on the show though. This whole episode was focused on paring certain characters.
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Post by evilgus on Nov 27, 2005 2:10:11 GMT -5
The story of Gilgamesh was set in what we now call Iraq.
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Post by Sawyer on Nov 27, 2005 10:51:31 GMT -5
If evilgus is right....THEN MAYBE MY CRACKPOT THEORY IS TOO! Remember the one about Desert Storm?? Heck yes!! But I be J.J. will change that now, because he's out to make Jack and I look bad. Well, Jack already does, but hey, everyone knows that.
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Post by Jay on Nov 27, 2005 11:42:50 GMT -5
I must say the whole Iraq/Sayid thing definitely caught my eye good job evilgus, you may be evil but your a good lost investigator
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Post by evilgus on Nov 27, 2005 22:09:37 GMT -5
I must say the whole Iraq/Sayid thing definitely caught my eye good job evilgus, you may be evil but your a good lost investigator Well, it's not a theory I've seen anywhere else... yet. So feel free to call it on the cast if you think it seems feasible. I called an Iraqi guy Gilgamesh tonight when I was playing pool and he knew right away what I meant. They must have pretty good schools there. Well you know, until about 1991. |
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