Kelvin = Other, fo'sho.

[Sunan]

A little theory of mine, which has probably been mentioned since it seems rather obvious, but eh. Here goes:

The tailies crashed and within minutes, we had Goodwin infiltrate the group, and Goodwin was an other. There's one thing you can assume from this, and that is that the others were expecting the plane to crash. This further supports the theory that the plane crash was planned, but that's a whole other can of beans. Now if we think back to when Desmond explained to Jack and co. how he came on to the island, he mentioned something along the lines that his boat crashed on the island and a man named Kelvin came running out of the jungle and brought him to the hatch.

Now the way that Desmond explained that made it seem as if Kelvin came running out soon after he crashed on to the island, similar to how Goodwin infiltrated the tailies, which supports that perhaps Kelvin is an other.

Now if Kelvin was an other and he was hanging out in the hatch, this also supports the claim that maybe the Others are or have been in the past a part of Dharma in one way or another.

What do you guys think?

[matt]

Interesting theory; I like it - if you take Desmond at his word. It certainly seems the Others - Goodwin and Ethan - were certainly able to slip in unnoticed among their respective groups. If the hijinx hadn't started - the kidnappings - they probably would've remained unnoticed.

[evilgus]

If Goodwin and Ethan are the others, who was Nathan? An other-other? So who does that make the silent walkers, other-other-others? The Nigerian Priest must have been an other-other-other-other.
Jin called Eko and Anna-Lucia's group others, so basically anyone who wasn't in the fuselage crash is an other until they find out who they are, so by that logic i guess it's 100% that Kelvin was some kind of other.

[Annie]

You know, that whole story Desmond tells is kind of weird. Remember how afraid Desmond was to leave the bunker? And how he asked strangely, "You mean the world is still out there?" or something like that? And he asked if anyone is sick?

It seems to me that Kelvin freaked him out. Did Kelvin freak Desmond out just so that he would stay in the bunker? OR did Kelvin freak him out because Kelvin believed the Dharma film, too? IF Kelvin believed the Dharma film, what was he doing outside the bunker? Desmond certainly did not let on that he knew there had been a plane crash, yet Kelvin knows there is a sailboat run aground? Sounds fishy to me.

[Sunan]

evilgus said:

If Goodwin and Ethan are the others, who was Nathan? An other-other? So who does that make the silent walkers, other-other-others? The Nigerian Priest must have been an other-other-other-other.
Jin called Eko and Anna-Lucia's group others, so basically anyone who wasn't in the fuselage crash is an other until they find out who they are, so by that logic i guess it's 100% that Kelvin was some kind of other.

The whole deal with Nathan hasn't been cleared up, but from what I understand the writers have said that he was placed as a red herring for the viewers, what with him saying he was from Canada and whatnot. But the whole deal with him being gone for hours on end hasn't been cleared up yet. My hunch is that he was an other, on the same side as Goodwin, but Goodwin had killed him to keep his mouth shut or maybe somehow Nathan had become a "bad person" and was necessary to be killed, if we assume that the Others consist of only "good" people.

I see what you're trying to say about how I didn't specify what group of others, if there are more, that Kelvin would be from, but judging from how he took in Desmond, I would assume that he is on the same side as Goodwin, being that their method of infiltration seem somewhat similar.

[Cody]

annie said:

You know, that whole story Desmond tells is kind of weird. Remember how afraid Desmond was to leave the bunker? And how he asked strangely, "You mean the world is still out there?" or something like that? And he asked if anyone is sick?

It seems to me that Kelvin freaked him out. Did Kelvin freak Desmond out just so that he would stay in the bunker? OR did Kelvin freak him out because Kelvin believed the Dharma film, too? IF Kelvin believed the Dharma film, what was he doing outside the bunker? Desmond certainly did not let on that he knew there had been a plane crash, yet Kelvin knows there is a sailboat run aground? Sounds fishy to me.

I think Desmond was trying to freak Jack out.....if he was so concerend about the world outside the hatch than why did he leave the hatch so quikley. If you thought the world was gone you wouldn't run out of the hatch that fast, you would take your time

[Annie]

Kelvin and Goodwin. Same modus operandi. Good point, Sunan.

Yea, but why try to freak Jack out? Maybe Desmond had just lost it mentally. Bing! There goes Desmond's brain.

[Cliff]

I think you're right about that, Annie - I think by the time they found him, Desmond was a loony.

[Redsox]

keven believed it was his replacement but because there was only one they contend working in pairs

[matt]

Remember that first glance of Desmond in the hatch? He looked wired. All kinds of unhealed cuts.