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Post by backfirerecords on Jan 5, 2006 12:39:28 GMT -5
GENIUSTHEORY.BLOGSPOT.COM
I've been workin on this for a long time, and it's way too long to be posting in one message in a forum. It's pretty comprehensive, so let me know what you think about it.
If you really buy it, and you have something to add to or support it, post a comment or let me know while i continue to develop it further.
GENIUSTHEORY.BLOGSPOT.COM
phoenixentertainment@gmail.com backfirerecords@gmail.com
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Post by Sunan on Jan 5, 2006 14:56:55 GMT -5
I liked the whole thing with the science versus religion motif because it's seen in a lot of places, most notably in Jack versus Locke: "man of science, man of faith".
I've only read the first few paragraphs, and I'll probably break it up into a few pieces since it's a tad bit long. I'll get back to you when I'm done.
EDIT: I just skimmed through the entire page, and I noticed you had a picture of all five of the Dharma logos. I'm pretty sure that the three other than Swan and Arrow that you have there have been deemed to be fake. I'm not sure how much that changes the entire theory since I haven't trudged through it yet, but I thought I'd give you the heads up.
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Post by Annie on Jan 5, 2006 15:05:45 GMT -5
Welcome. Dude! That's really good! And DETAILED. I bookmarked your page so I could go back and review, because Dang, that's a lot of info. I went to Los Alamos summer 04. Took a half tour as most of the interesting stuff was closed due to "Terrorism." From what I remember (which isn't much between uninterested husband/kids, and torrential rain) the scientists did work in little secret groups. We could extrapolate that to our Dharma scientists working in the hatches. "Never the twain shall meet" except for an elite few, but then this horrific product come out of it all. I'm listening to a WWII spy novel and you are so right. I don't think we all realize what it was like back then. Both sides were desperate to try to develop any leads that would give them an advantage, science, religion, psychology, ESP, you name it. Hanso experienced all that and is probably still driven by it to some extent. What happened at Soldier's field? I'm familiar with Montauk and the Philadelphia experiment. Weird stuff. Are you going to make us look it up? So let me get this point straight. You think the EM field is soooooo strong on the Island that it interferes with time? The producers flat out denied time travel, but not time interference I guess. Hmmm. . . Hey, very interesting point about dripping Walt. The Pre-cogs in Minority Report! Cool.
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Post by Annie on Jan 5, 2006 15:06:53 GMT -5
Oh, yeah. One more thing.
I like your take on the groups of Others and their origins.
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Post by backfirerecords on Jan 5, 2006 16:17:53 GMT -5
hey,
just to clear up the logo comment on Annie's post, i just used them as a means to explain those certain areas in graphic form. i just took them to basically pictoralize the digram i had posted, but i guess the words themselves might have done just fine. the logos themselves really have no bearing to the theory, but the relationships btw the different experiments do. thanks for the feedback.
larry
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Post by backfirerecords on Jan 5, 2006 16:22:54 GMT -5
basically, the manhattan project research and development took place there.
that is, einstein and a group of scientists, funded by the federal government, had a lab underneath soldier field where they researched, developed, and constructed the 2 atomic bombs we used on hiroshima and nagasaki during world war II. they then were shipped to the west coast, where a ship sailed the bombs to the south pacific (coincidence?). they then were loaded on the planes which flew to japan and dropped them. INTERESTING ENOUGH, that same ship, on it's return voyage from dropping off the bombs, was hit by a torpedo in the south pacific and was sunk. the survivors tales (which i have seen 1st person accounts of on a documentary) state that they stayed afloat on the wreckage, but out of a decent number of survivors, most of them were eaten by tiger sharks. they were picked off one by one until a small group of them were found...this bears striking resemblance to the episode "adrift"...ill post a more detailed explanation on the site probably by tomorrow. thanks again.
larry
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Post by backfirerecords on Jan 5, 2006 16:25:24 GMT -5
SORRY, THE POST JUST ABOVE THIS IS IN REGARD TO SOLDIER FIELD AND IT'S GOINGS ON.
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Post by Annie on Jan 5, 2006 16:28:59 GMT -5
Yes, The USS Indianapolis. But, they did a lot of atomic bomb development in Los Alamos, New Mexico. On the tour, they told us they needed an isolated secret place to work.
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Post by backfirerecords on Jan 5, 2006 16:37:32 GMT -5
yea sorry, i mis-stated it.
the actual construction of the bomb was, i believe, in Los Alamos. however, the plutonium research, development, and construction of it's casing and properties - i am pretty sure- did take place at soldier field. i really appreciate your feedback...thanks again.
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Post by Annie on Jan 5, 2006 16:49:07 GMT -5
Yes, I remember on the tour they built these really nice roads and bridges into nowhere (at that time) and trucked in all these scientists because keeping the project secret at Soldier's was getting too difficult. Who knew a trip to Los Alamos would help me figure out Lost!? Ha Ha
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Post by Sawyer on Jan 5, 2006 23:32:06 GMT -5
You have far too much time on your hands.
This will be my book report for the quarter lol. Nah jk, but I'm gonna print it and read it tomorrow.
Do you mind if I talk about it on my show, and send some people to your site?
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Post by backfirerecords on Jan 6, 2006 0:04:22 GMT -5
ya man, go ahead. its all about people feeding of each others ideas...go for it.
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Post by Annie on Jan 6, 2006 15:37:52 GMT -5
Can you explain more about how EM fields distort time?
Well, to be honest, even if you can explain it, I don't know if I can understand it. Physics - I think it's a really cool subject and all, but my brain has trouble grasping some of the concepts.
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Post by backfirerecords on Jan 6, 2006 17:33:08 GMT -5
Ok, so here's an excerpt from www.hawking.org.uk/lectures/warps2.html, it explains some of Stephen Hawking's theories. Now, when you read this, it might seem that I am trying to take this to a whole different level...but i'm not. I really dont think it makes sense to delve into the whole space-time debate, it would get too ridiculous - i mainly put this in here to illustrate 'wormholes' and the theory of how they work. i don't necessarily believe that this is actually taking place on the island - but THE CONCEPT of this is very important - mainly, space is warped by gravitational (magnetic) fields, and in the right combination (the correct size of bodies, force of their respective magnetic fields, and distance between each other) it can create a disparity in the laws that generally apply to time. I do not propose time travel, mainly cause its too obscure, plus the writers overtly discounted that theory - but i do propose the passing of time on the island is merely different than that of the world. not slower or faster within the ISLAND or within the WORLD, what i mean is that by passing from one to another is the only way to actually realize the distortion occurring. this brings into account the theory of general relativity by einstein. i know it sounds kind of crazy, but people thought einstein was nuts too. taken from www.hawking.org.uk/lectures/warps2.html - "Einstein showed that it would take an infinite amount of rocket power, to accelerate a space ship to beyond the speed of light. So the only way to get from one side of the galaxy to the other, in a reasonable time, would seem to be if we could warp space-time so much, that we created a little tube or wormhole. This could connect the two sides of the galaxy, and act as a short cut, to get from one to the other and back while your friends were still alive. Such wormholes have been seriously suggested, as being within the capabilities of a future civilization. But if you can travel from one side of the galaxy, to the other, in a week or two, you could go back through another wormhole, and arrive back before you set out. You could even manage to travel back in time with a single wormhole, if its two ends were moving relative to each other. One can show that to create a wormhole, one needs to warp space-time in the opposite way, to that in which normal matter warps it. Ordinary matter curves space-time back on itself, like the surface of the Earth. However, to create a wormhole, one needs matter that warps space-time in the opposite way." (In magnetism, it simply means, flipping the N and S around on a simple magnet) i hope i didn't sound too insane...if i did...oh well. maybe i am.
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Post by Annie on Jan 6, 2006 17:40:28 GMT -5
That would kind of go along with the magnetic polar reversal idea that's out there, too. You might have come across it. If not, it is worth a look. I think we had it under the thread "A theory I came Across" or something like that. Maybe not same mechanism, but same subject matter at least. Incorporates the illustration of the force field from the comic book, too. So you are saying that if the magnetic field is strong enough, it can warp space. Since space and time are interconnected as space-time, it also warps time? N'est pas? "Let's do the Time Warp again . . ."
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