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Post by AussieJordan on Jun 17, 2008 6:32:10 GMT -5
Joey Tribbiani
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Post by The Hybrid on Jun 17, 2008 9:15:26 GMT -5
Not quite sure what Joey Tribbiani has to do with this, but ok.
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Post by The Hybrid on Jun 17, 2008 9:57:39 GMT -5
Kirah815: I think the reason i'm sending mixed messages is due to a couple of things. First, i'm still figuring this stuff out for myself. I'm bettering myself everyday and because of that, I always learn, no matter where i'm at, no matter who i'm with. Second, there's the idea of the "seduction community". Because I talk about it, you compare me to it. Whoa sparky!, slowdown a minute.. My blog has the terms and definitions use by the seduction community because it is the most efficient way to talk about an interaction with a woman. Guys are very logical, they want step 1 through 9 and all the details explained. On the surface, it looks like that we're cold, heartless, and just out there to get the prize. That's not the case. The field reports are there for other guys to read, learn, and practice. If you read all of my field reports, there's always something that I learned, and there is always a moral. To be real bastards, the SC would be to use a girl's real name instead of HBpuppy, btw.. has puppy feet tattoos going up her arm. If good men can be strong and confident, then how do they get there? The purpose of the community is to become strong and confident as well as to get your life handled. Btw i'm really glad you like my myspace page so much! Although i don't think we can be myspace buddies cuz i don't smoke weed.
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Post by rollingdoughnut on Jun 18, 2008 12:41:11 GMT -5
Someone needs to stick up for this segment.
I really enjoyed it, cause I'm a young guy, and I struggle with my confidence. I mean, I checked out the community, and it seems a bit like a cult, but Clif also seems like a nice guy, and he's not out to hurt anybody. There's seems a pretty well defined divide between the guys that get into this PUA stuff purely for the "seduction" side of it, and the guys that learn these skills to better themselves. So far, the segment has not been boastful, and it kept my interest. At least Warm Taffy hasn't got hold of this stuff yet, cause then no one would be safe ever again.
Can't wait for the next episode.
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Post by Steve on Jun 18, 2008 14:45:00 GMT -5
I'm sticking up for this segment too.
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Post by juggs on Jun 18, 2008 17:08:43 GMT -5
awwww, this segment was taken off of the mp3 download from the homepage. Is there a link to download the J&J show explicit in mp3 form? I thought it was entertaining.
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Post by jlyn1980 on Jun 18, 2008 17:20:35 GMT -5
I love the segment. It's fun to hear what guys think women want to hear. And to learn their tricks.
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Post by soggypizza on Jun 18, 2008 17:23:24 GMT -5
now that it has an expicit tag i want to hear it even more
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Post by Colleen on Jun 18, 2008 18:21:49 GMT -5
awwww, this segment was taken off of the mp3 download from the homepage. Is there a link to download the J&J show explicit in mp3 form? I thought it was entertaining. Just go subscribe to the Married Man Podcast feed on iTunes or marriedmanpodcast.blogspot.com
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Post by The Hybrid on Jun 18, 2008 23:47:06 GMT -5
I love the segment. It's fun to hear what guys think women want to hear. And to learn their tricks. Uh oh! I better not tell you ladies all the secrets, you might catch on to us.
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Post by juggs on Jun 19, 2008 8:18:24 GMT -5
awwww, this segment was taken off of the mp3 download from the homepage. Is there a link to download the J&J show explicit in mp3 form? I thought it was entertaining. Just go subscribe to the Married Man Podcast feed on iTunes or marriedmanpodcast.blogspot.comThxs for the link!
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Post by inconsequential on Jun 19, 2008 15:46:53 GMT -5
I think that if you take a step back and think about the way that men act with women they are interested in sexually, you will realize that men already try to manipulate women in order to get what they want. But they are using the techniques that their mothers taught them - such as telling the woman that she is beautiful, agreeing with everything that she says, and buying her dinner and gifts.
I am no pick up artist but I have to defend Hybrid and say that those things rarely work - and I think what he wants to do is to help men understand that the things they normally do and the way the way that society tells you that you should act toward women is often counter productive. I don't want to speak for him but I get the feeling that what he wants is not to teach a guy exactly how he should act but to give him the knowledge that will automatically change his behavior toward women an increase his attractiveness. Even small things can completely turn a guys sex life around - like being taught that women don't care as much as you might think about looks - as long as you are attractive in other ways. But unless you start somewhere and go out there and try some simple techniques you will never really BELIEVE what is being taught... and when the girl of your dreams comes along - you wont be prepared and youll do everything wrong and you she could slip through your fingers.
I don't see it as lying about who you are ( I do not condone lying to anyone) but as growing as a man and pushing yourself to be better - the way you would for anything you want to be successful at.
I know there are canned lines out there that some guys like to use because they seem to work - but communication is something like 5% words and 95% voice tone and body language - and that is not a secret that can be given away to women.
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Post by majormatt on Jun 19, 2008 21:42:06 GMT -5
Hybrid, I totally AGREE with what you are trying to say, I've read alot about it and gotten alot of womens numbers from it. To me this theory is mainly about building your confidence and having the ability to talk to women and know how to react and what to say.
Can I just make one suggestion, Hybrid, the segment is great, but lets make it quicker, more snappy, more... 'fun' this is a 'comedy' podcast afterall. I just think if you cut the long winded stories down, its going to be alot more of a fun segment.
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Post by eubiscus on Jun 19, 2008 23:39:53 GMT -5
I like Cliff's segment. Im listening to the new one at the moment as well. I can understand where Cliff is coming from. He is just trying to give us some pointers as how to meet girls. I am considered to be a nice guy. Also I am very shy and have trouble going up to a girl and starting up a conversation. All I think Cliff is doing is trying to help us start that conversation. He hasnt said anything about bedding these girls we meet. I think he has a problem with getting his point across though. Ive noticed this as well in older podcasts he has been on. (No offence Cliff) One suggestion I have is to change the title of the segment. "A Night With a Pick Up Artist" just sounds like you're just trying to pick up girls and use them. Pick up artists are seen as jerks by most people. Keep it up the good advice Cliff. Try to get your point across a little better though so everyone will stop associating you with the guys that use girls in your community.
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Post by The Hybrid on Jun 20, 2008 0:26:04 GMT -5
inconsequential - absolutely agree If you comment on a woman's beauty, she's won, game over. She thinks "he thinks i'm attractive, i can get him any time i want." Women notice the details, Body language is around ~70%, style is ~20% and what you say is around ~10%. For style, you want to stand out from the crowd. I'll try to keep it a little snappy and fun, it is the Jay and Jack show. One of the things i've worked on is that i speak to quickly. One of my friends said that I needed to slow down and think about stuff before I say it. Plus, i wasn't prepared for this episode and went home afterward and wrote out a plan, something that i'll take about, and a little tip for the listeners to do. Now since it's on the explicit section, (which btw, i didn't know when we were recording it) it' will be a little more fun. Thanks guys
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