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Jun 13, 2006 14:16:07 GMT -5
Post by MiTHRANDiR on Jun 13, 2006 14:16:07 GMT -5
I just wasted about half an hour of my valuable time learning how to play Coldplay's "Clocks" on a piano, even though I can't play Piano at all I did learn it though.
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Jun 13, 2006 14:20:50 GMT -5
Post by supersaltine on Jun 13, 2006 14:20:50 GMT -5
Everyone's laughing at me *sob* lol I had no idea what I was talking about ..graphic disk.graphic card.. eh who cares..All I know is that I need something to make the games work. ;D
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Jun 13, 2006 15:02:44 GMT -5
Post by lostforwords on Jun 13, 2006 15:02:44 GMT -5
My desktop PC specs:
-Intel Pentium D 805 2.66 GHz -Motherboard Asrock 775T -2 x 512 MB DDR2-667 -2 x 160 GB Samsung -a water cooler -Asus EN7600 GT, 256 MB, 350 MHz
And my notebook:
Sony Vaio FS115Z with Pentium M740, 1.73 GHz, HDD 100GB, RAM 1024MB, LCD 15.4" WXGA X-Black TFT
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Jun 13, 2006 15:17:12 GMT -5
Post by Casper on Jun 13, 2006 15:17:12 GMT -5
And Casper - do you know how to crochet, I'd really like to learn! Casper whispers totally off topic: I knew it once... learned it in school when I was about 10 ... made clothes for my monchichies (kinda dolls)... but I forgot how to do it by now.
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Jun 13, 2006 15:38:21 GMT -5
Post by Mexican Coke on Jun 13, 2006 15:38:21 GMT -5
Wow, C! I though you were just kidding about all this knitting...just remember, you favorite and shiniest knitting needles got sucked into the electromagnetic nucleus of the Hatch! Bwahahahaha!
BTW, all I know is that I have a labtop that has the Internet and it works. That's all I need to know. If it breaks, oh well. Did I just say that out loud?
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Jun 13, 2006 15:59:39 GMT -5
Post by Casper on Jun 13, 2006 15:59:39 GMT -5
Just remember, you favorite and shiniest knitting needles got sucked into the electromagnetic nucleus of the Hatch! Bwahahahaha! Casper whispers: I switched to plastic needles. Wow, C! I though you were just kidding about all this knitting... I do?
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Jun 13, 2006 16:19:15 GMT -5
Post by Dragavan on Jun 13, 2006 16:19:15 GMT -5
There have been MASSIVE amounts of development on this front since January. Actually, most of the development was done well before January, but apple didn’t release any of it until they had their kit set to go and wanted to let it out. Truth be told, I have known about OSX running on intel based machines for years (inside apple’s compound), but I was not allowed to talk about it. And these were machines that were built for windows. The new Apple machines are able to run windows just fine too, but they didn’t want to let it out until they had “Boot Camp” set up to make it as easy to set up and as using the Mac was. Unfortunately (or fortunately, deepening on how you look at it) a number of hackers went and found a really complicated way of getting past certain blocks and getting Windows running on an Intel Mac. Apple didn’t want to see any of their users trying this abysmal way of doing it so they released “Boot Camp” while it was still in Beta testing (for free and for all users who are willing to use a Beta program). And now, with Boot Camp in place, it is actually easier to install Windows on a Mac than it is on a standard generic Intel box since Boot Camp sets up all the drivers and other things you might have had to download or install or search for to use the hardware. You just then install windows and let the set up Boot Camp made for you do the rest. www.apple.com/getamac/windows.htmlNeedless to say, I am a Mac user. My machines are a PowerBook G4 Aluminum 1.25 with 1.5GB ram. My desktop machine (which has been designated a server and DVD player now) is a PowerMac G4 400 tower. I also have older machines (since I rarely get rid of my Macs) of a PowerMac G3 Beige box, Quadra 660AV, and even my first Mac, the Macintosh SE. All of them still run, just don’t get used. I have also had an older Windows PC that I used just to play Star Wars Galaxies for a few months (and now has been parted out and given to my roommates) and even a Commodore 128D (which I still have and still runs), but I don’t count those any more.
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Jun 13, 2006 16:27:55 GMT -5
Post by lostforwords on Jun 13, 2006 16:27:55 GMT -5
Don't forget the safety pins! lol
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Jun 13, 2006 17:44:34 GMT -5
Post by wesh on Jun 13, 2006 17:44:34 GMT -5
I see Dragavan, that sounds like quite some development indeed. I had read about bootcamp vaguely, but i thought it was kinda like an emulation platform that allows one to run Windows inside OS X. If that was the case indeed, I figured Windows wouldn't run quite as smoothy, as it would in like a dual boot configuration. But reading the link you've supplied, it totally doesnt sound like a sluggish setup. It sounds dual bootilicious! (it prolly is indeed just that?) Purchasing such a nice thingy might be a future goal We'll see how things roll. supersaltine: aww, i wasn't laughing. It was just like a friendly nudge, you know And it sounded funny too, that's all.
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Jun 13, 2006 17:47:44 GMT -5
Post by supersaltine on Jun 13, 2006 17:47:44 GMT -5
lol I know, I was just playin. I do it a lot.
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Jun 13, 2006 18:15:25 GMT -5
Post by Dragavan on Jun 13, 2006 18:15:25 GMT -5
Yes, it is a Dual Boot situation. The old emulation thing has been around for ages, with a program called Virtual PC (which MicroSoft bought out a few years back and now sells, even in a bundle with Office for Mac - which makes no sense to me). VPC was horribly slow and a memory hog and not at all fun (and near impossible to play games on).
Boot Camp, on the other hand, sets up your partitions for you and burns you a windows driver disk that has everything Windows will need to work on your hardware. It then hands control over to the Windows installer and lets it do its thing on the new partition. Once done you install the drivers and are set up to dual boot at will. From the few people I know who have actually done it, they say the Windows runs better on the Mac than it did on their Dells and Gateway machines.
There are some warnings though. Apple says that it is still basically a Beta program so some problems could happen. They do not warranty the program or any data that may be lost when running it. Although rare, I have heard of a couple people who lost data or even the entire contents of their drives while running Boot Camp. So just make sure you back up before running it and all should be fine either way. Once set up for the dual boot I have not heard of any issues.
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Jun 13, 2006 18:42:40 GMT -5
Post by wesh on Jun 13, 2006 18:42:40 GMT -5
Heck, I've heard of people losing all there data by simply using Windows But no, really, that sounds nice. If the Boot Camp leaves beta, and gets more stable I could definatly consider it! Does that mean that one can install Mac OSX on a 'normal' PC too? Or are there some hardware/software components that wouldnt allow such exotic situations? Excuse all the questions, but I'm thinking out loud about a Vista-Mac OSX future config
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Jun 13, 2006 19:12:23 GMT -5
Post by Dragavan on Jun 13, 2006 19:12:23 GMT -5
As of this time OSX is only usable on Mac hardware (for reasons they do not make clear). Personally I believe this is because Apple is a HARDWARE company and not a software company. A lot of people seem to forget this. Everything they do is to sell more hardware. iTunes for Windows was made to sell more iPods. OSX is a great OS, but it’s made to sell the hardware it’s made for.
Sure, they make some great software, but they are still a Hardware company at the core. This is why you don’t see iPhoto on the PC. If they had Apple brand digital cameras and stuff, I bet you would. If they made Apple brand digital video cameras, you’d see iMovie for PCs too. Instead, all these things are there to sell you on the “Digital Hub” idea of using a Mac computer for all your needs. Selling the hardware.
Now, that being said, I also know people who have gotten OSX running on all sorts of hardware (through hacks, emulators, tricks, and other means), including the X-Box (which was completely useless once on there... but he did it, d**nit). In the end it is pointless to do any of this because OSX becomes so buggy and slow that there is no reason to use it off the native hardware.
OSX was written for very specific hardware (which is one of the reasons it runs so well) and doesn’t have the ability or drivers to adapt to the millions of different configurations out there. This is also one of the reasons why Windows has as many issues as it does. It has to be made to run on nearly any configuration of hardware people can think of. It has to be written to allow this, so it has a lot more crap you won’t need for your configuration mucking things up. But then, MicroSoft is a Software company, so that’s how it has to do it. Not a slam of MS or Windows (not that I am above doing that, just not needed here), just a fact about how these companies and OS’ differ.
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Jun 13, 2006 22:09:20 GMT -5
Post by wannabeactuary on Jun 13, 2006 22:09:20 GMT -5
I built my own, nice metal black case, clear side, lots of lights....but give me a sec to get the important specs...I've posted them on some forum somewhere
note, this was built mostly around spring of 2004 with only minor upgrades since then (DVD burner, more ram, new keyboard/mouse combo)...the main stuff is over 2 years old
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Jun 13, 2006 22:11:10 GMT -5
Post by wannabeactuary on Jun 13, 2006 22:11:10 GMT -5
Brief run down on my system.... P4, 2.4 Ghz intel mobo with integrated lan and 6 USB 2.0 ports 2 GB DDR Ram 128MB DDR nVidia GeForce FX 5200 - changed fan to a copper fan 40 GB HD (Running XP Pro SP2 and programs) 120 GB HD for storage 16x Lite-On DVDRW drive (4x Dual layer) 16x Lite-On DVD-Rom four 80mm system fans (LED) 9 format multimedia card reader 5 port (1 internal) usb 2.0 card some old soundblaster sound card from my old dell tower back in the day clear side blue cathode light round cables 17" LCD monitor with speakers altec lansing speakers with sub logitech cordless desktop lx 700 blah blah blah forums.tweaktown.com/showthread.php?p=223502#post223502
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