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Post by servo3k on Mar 24, 2006 20:43:43 GMT -5
i think hey, if it works, and it runs well, and it doesn't mess with programs or formatting stuffs, bring on the intell!
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Post by mbison on Mar 24, 2006 20:50:35 GMT -5
They say that it's up to 4X faster than the G4s that were in them before. I find that hard to believe. The PowerPC chips were so much more streamlined. Yeah, the G4s are old but I didn't think they were that slow.
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Post by Jay on Mar 24, 2006 20:57:34 GMT -5
Well we wont really be able to see the full potential on the MacBook Pro until the programs and technology catch up with it. But I will say that my 1.83 dual core MacBook is just as fast and faster in most cases then my 2ghz iMac G5
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Post by mbison on Mar 24, 2006 21:03:07 GMT -5
I'm seriously considering picking up a Mac Mini. I want to use it as an editing station. I don't edit HD video or anything hardcore, mostly just Photoshop and the occasional audio/video editing. Would it be a mistake to get a Mac Mini for this purpose?
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Post by Dragavan on Mar 24, 2006 21:03:57 GMT -5
I think that just like the switch over to PPC chips from the old architecture, we are going to be in a difficult time for the Mac for the next year or two. There will be two types of programs out there, since the emulator is just as clunky as the old one, and the hardware isn't something simple to just tweak your software to work on.
After the transition it will be great and allow the Mac to continue to grow and improve, just as with the last switch they did nearly 10 years ago.
The issue I see the biggest problem with are the three biggest markets they aim their professional line at: Video, Audio, and Scientific professionals. They removed the standard card slot used by these groups to support a lot of their existing hardware. They removed the FireWire 800 port used for fast video and data transfers. And they didn't wait for the software to be updated (or even close) that these groups rely on. I know many that will not be upgrading until these things are either fixed or common.
I think Apple should have only switched on its common user machines (the iMacs, iBooks, and so on) first and waited on the professional machines until the panning could be done smoother. But we will see.
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Post by Jay on Mar 24, 2006 21:23:21 GMT -5
Thats the technology that needs to catch up the new card slots are far Superior to the old ones, and once more 3/4 cards come out the better. Plus you can use FW800 with a new 3/4 CARD. You are right though its just going to take time.
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Post by officialben on Mar 24, 2006 21:26:37 GMT -5
Yea the 17inch powerbook, and future macbook is just too big of a laptop for me. The key is portability and the 15inch has a big enough screen and is easy to port around. Completely understandable. I'm an editor, and I'd need all the space I can take. I have a 24" widescreen monitor at home on my PM and i'm still wishing for more, haha. I'd say just as long as you upgrade your RAM [which maxes as 2gigs i think] and you go with the core duo version, you might be all right with simpler stuff (when i say simple stuff, I mean not after effects). You might still find yourself waiting to render stuff in FCP or CS2, so if you're going the Mac Mini route, go all out. That rhymes. I rock.
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Post by Jay on Mar 24, 2006 21:36:09 GMT -5
It might be cheaper to just go for a 17inch iMac because if you think about it the highest mac mini is $799 which doesnt have a monitor keyboard or mouse. Here is the comparison
I am puttin the price with a student discount (If your a student then you get a killer discount)
Mac mini: 1.66GHz Intel Core Duo processor 2MB L2 Cache 667MHz Frontside Bus 512MB memory (667MHz DDR2 SDRAM) 80GB Serial ATA hard drive Double-layer SuperDrive (DVD+R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW) Built-in AirPort Extreme and Bluetooth 2.0 Apple Remote $779 w/ Student Discount $799 without
iMac with buit in iSight: 17-inch widescreen LCD with 1440x900 resolution 1.83GHz Intel Core Duo with 2MB shared L2 cache 512MB (single SO-DIMM) 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM 160GB Serial ATA hard drive Slot-load 8x double-layer SuperDrive ATI Radeon X1600 graphics with 128MB GDDR3 memory Built-in AirPort Extreme and Bluetooth 2.0 $1199 w/ Student Discount $1299 without
So for $400 you get a lot more stuff, but if you dont have the extra 400 the mac mini will be fine, but photoshop won't be up to speed until a universal version is made.
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Post by officialben on Mar 24, 2006 21:39:14 GMT -5
If I am up to date, I think I remember reading that Adobe won't make a universal version until CS3... I read that a month ago, so maybe it's changed.
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Post by mbison on Mar 24, 2006 21:39:35 GMT -5
Bah, screw it... I'll just stick with my windows boxes. I wish Macs weren't so expensive.
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Post by Jay on Mar 24, 2006 21:41:08 GMT -5
Yea thats i heard, but lately I have heard that since a lot of people use photoshop on Macs that they may do an update before CS3. Since the majority of Photoshop users that I know use Macs I don't see why they wouldn't
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Post by Jay on Mar 24, 2006 21:42:01 GMT -5
Bah, screw it... I'll just stick with my windows boxes. I wish Macs weren't so expensive. Come on you know you want one, you'll feel so much better after you get a Mac
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Post by mbison on Mar 24, 2006 21:43:01 GMT -5
Actually, I wish they would just sell you the parts and let you build your own Mac. That's why my windows boxes are so cheap. Macs aren't that much more expensive if you're buying your PCs at retail but to quote one of my heroes: "Retail is for suckers".
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Post by mbison on Mar 24, 2006 21:44:29 GMT -5
Haha! Actually, yes, I want one pretty badly. Maybe I could just use it for a DVR... what kind of support does it have for recording and playing back live tv? I know it has firewire for cable boxes but I've heard that the support for that kind of stuff is very minimal and kinda flakey.
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Post by Redsox on Mar 24, 2006 21:54:30 GMT -5
i want a mac despertly
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