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Post by Scott on Jun 9, 2006 5:26:08 GMT -5
if lots of people signed a petition, jay might remove the smiting feature which would solve the problem
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Post by Adam's Ribs on Jun 9, 2006 18:00:36 GMT -5
It also makes the Exalts all that more valuable. The reality is that the whole kharma system does have an ability to be random and people can just as easily smite for no reason as exalt, so one does have to really look at this and not take it too seriously, but if you were consistently getting smites or exalts it is a feedback system that allows others to anonymously help you understand if what you are doing is contributing to the forum and community or detracting from it. JLSK Great post, JSLK. I'd exalt if I had any exalt juice left. . . But it's true. If you like what someone has said--- if they have made you think or laugh or have contributed to your fun of this board, then exalt them. But conversely, if someone is waisting time or is rude or clogs up the forum with unneccessarry stuff of any kind, then smite them. I've done a lot more exalting than smiting, but I have hit smite a few times, and I have my reasons. If I am rude to someone, or if I am detracting from your enjoyment of this forum, you should smite me too. "The love you take is equal to the love you make." --Paul McCartney |
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Post by KatieIsland on Jun 9, 2006 20:02:51 GMT -5
if lots of people signed a petition, jay might remove the smiting feature which would solve the problem I disagree that it would solve the problem to remove smiting. The problem isn't that people are being rude about smiting... yes, it can hurt your feelings to be bumped down, it's happened to the best of us. However, to remove the feature would be to leave no annonymous outlet to express displeasure. People would get more nasty pms, and then get burned right in the midst of threads... it could cause many problems, and change the environment in the forum... as it stands if someone does something to displease you, you have the option to push a button, and hope they'll figure it out. Taking that option away will lead to other forms of self-expression that could be less pleasant. Plus, smiting is the yin to exalting's yang... or something like that. It's what keeps things balanced. if people only ever got exalted, then the numbers would be a) entirely meaningless, and b) HUGE. Also, the principle of karma is that what you say an do will come back to you... doing and saying good things will reward you with good things, doing and saying bad things will get you bad things. It's not karma if nothing bad ever happened. The title would have to be changed to Popular Points or something... but then people's feelings might get hurt as well, if they didn't get as many as someone else. I'm not anti-petition, just think it through before you start. I would support something that prevented Remote Viewers , Jay and Jack from being smitten.... that wouldn't be a bad idea, simply because people are going to come down hard on them anyway because they are in the spot light... through pms, or on the board. They don't need to smite feature for karma to be in play. Most people do though. At least that's my opinion. ~Katie |
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Post by Uncle Igmar on Jun 9, 2006 20:47:27 GMT -5
I like the removing "Remote Viewers" and "Moderators" from Smiting possibilities. But really - what does it matter for the rest of us? Do we base our self esteem on our Karma? OK - maybe I do - but the whole Jay and Jack war thing is just to see who gets to 5000 the quickest - nothing else  |
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Post by jacksloststepkid on Jun 12, 2006 7:49:51 GMT -5
Well,
Personally I think that it all balances out. I would not exclude us remote viewers from kharma. I do happen to notice when my Kharma drops a few after I make a certain post, and do actually go back and rethink whether I was perhaps not as constructive as I could have been, etc. I think moderators need feedback as much as anyone else, if not more so. That said, if there was a more serious issue with a moderator, people should feel comfortable PMing the person to discuss it as well.
JLSK
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Post by jordache on Jun 12, 2006 8:03:01 GMT -5
I agree with JLSK. Allowing smiting keeps everything in balance and like others have said, without it, karma would begin to mean less. Its never nice to see your karma go down, but its happened to pretty much all of us. I don't think the moderators should be excluded either, because we post on the board as members of the board primarily, to express our opinions about the show and all the other talk that occurs on this board. If one of us says something that doesn't go over well with you, you should have the chance to smite. Part of what makes this board so special is the lack of flaming and just plain rudeness to each other. I fear that were we to get rid of the smite button, we would risk losing the happy community that we have formed.
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Post by jacksloststepkid on Jun 12, 2006 9:23:53 GMT -5
And, by the way, as mods we cannot see who smites who...
Just in case anyone was wondering or if that might have been tied at all to the idea of removing Kharma from mods...
JLSK
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Post by Redsox on Jun 12, 2006 9:33:52 GMT -5
to clear it up there is a deffrince between admin(jay and jack) and mods (the remote viwers) only jay knows what he is capable of...
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Post by KatieIsland on Jun 12, 2006 9:45:39 GMT -5
The no smiting the mods idea was thrown out there, because if anyone should be excluded from it, it should be them. They are the most likely to get burning PMs, and such. However, I didn't suggest that the karma be removed from them completely. I threw the idea out there to redirect the goals of people whose whims were leading them to fight for the removal of smiting altogether. I think eventually someone will get mad at the Mods and begin smiting them into negative numbers.... like with Jack. That would be upsetting. The truth is though, I don't really think anyone should be excluded from the smiting goodness. It would be like leaving the cookie dough out of the chocolate chip cookie... sure, you look forward to the chocolate part the most, but without the cookie part you are just eatting chocolate- and that can be excessive. Ok... recap of what I think: Karma=balance. Smiting= sad, but necessary evil to keep the balance. Exalting= good, but less meaningful than it used to be. Chocolate chip cookies= rediculous without the cookie part. Mods= gonna deal with all the crap, might be nice if we weren't able to smite them, sense they'll get the nasty PM's anyway... but they are the only people that maybe kindda should be excluded from that aspect of karma, since their bad stuff comes in a different form. Ok, I think that covers it.  |
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